Skeptic Psychic: Hello! And welcome once again to the wonderful world.
Skeptic Psychic: I'm a skeptic psychic where we are more or less enjoying the 2,000
Skeptic Psychic: 24 years.
Skeptic Psychic: with me, of course, is my wonderful, sweet, kind, considerate, brave, clean, reverent sister of mine. Kimbra Rodriguez.
Kim Rodriguez: Hey? How's it going? Oh, it's going pretty well. How are you doing? I'm doing good.
Kim Rodriguez: It's cold we're having our second day of winter
Kim Rodriguez: here in Texas. It's 35 degrees. So I've been freezing my to toes off
Kim Rodriguez: tomorrow we're gonna be back up to the 50 s.
Skeptic Psychic: I miss the up there in the wonderful world of the Great White North. They've got in the teams or lower. and I miss that.
Kim Rodriguez: Yes.
Kim Rodriguez: I like the cold, but
Kim Rodriguez: I feel like if I move away. I'll be leaving the ocean, which I also love.
Skeptic Psychic: So that's kind of where it gets kind of difficult. Well, I'm in the desert.
Kim Rodriguez: My dream place would be in the winter to live in the mountains and in the summer to live by the ocean.
Skeptic Psychic: So you you'd be a reverse Snow...,
Kim Rodriguez: yes, I would be a a reversed instead of being a winter Texan. I would be a summer Texan.
Kim Rodriguez: So did you hear that Trixie from the honeymooners died?
Skeptic Psychic: I saw that, she was the last of the honeymooners.
Skeptic Psychic: Wow! 99 years old. I mean, Jackie Gleason's gone art. Carney's gone.
Skeptic Psychic: I can't remember her name.
Skeptic Psychic: Ann Meadows, I believe. or could have been Audrey, I'm not sure
Kim Rodriguez: let me look that up.
Skeptic Psychic: yeah, she she was the last of of the
Skeptic Psychic: of the of the member of the show to die.
Kim Rodriguez: Oh, wow!
Skeptic Psychic: I know that Audrey had a sister, and her sister is the one who was on the honeymooners.
Skeptic Psychic: Audrey Meadows was actually Mary, one of my favorite prolific
Skeptic Psychic: writer Steve Allen
Kim Rodriguez: created the tonight show.
Kim Rodriguez: I did not know that. I mean, I did not know that they were married.
Skeptic Psychic: Yeah, well, basically, the
Skeptic Psychic: the tonight show a.
Skeptic Psychic: They say Jack Par was the creator of it. But at the same time Steve Allen brought that format into the
Skeptic Psychic: into it. But we're getting off topic. Sorry.
Kim Rodriguez: not a problem.
Skeptic Psychic: Let's talk about the wonderful creatures.
Skeptic Psychic: Mythology may be fact, maybe fiction of the
Skeptic Psychic: other
Skeptic Psychic: mythical creatures of the deep. Let's talk about sirens.
Kim Rodriguez: Yes.
Kim Rodriguez: Well, anything before we get into that anything paranormal happen to you. I know it's been a while since we've been on. But anything interesting happened to you over this holiday time.
Skeptic Psychic: Why are you saying that like like that? Huh? Kim Rodriguez: Well, I'm just saying I mean, we haven't done anything since before Thanksgiving. We took some time off, and I apologize to our viewers, but we are back
Kim Rodriguez: and ready to go for this New Year with some new things. I'm just wondering if anything exciting and paranormal has happened since. This is a paranormal show.
Skeptic Psychic: What are you trying to say you trying to get me to say something. Are you trying to say that I walk with ghosts? Are you trying to say that even though. I've had the chupa over and bigfoot over for barbecue. Huh?
Skeptic Psychic: Is that what you're trying to say? Kim Rodriguez: Hey? I can't say anything. If I don't know what's going on. That's why I'm asking right? Skeptic Psychic: Right. No, nothing really paranormal gone pretty much
Skeptic Psychic: just the usual
Skeptic Psychic: things that I see. And I hear so, and I am trying to actually
Skeptic Psychic: through reading certain books to
Skeptic Psychic: get my, you know
Skeptic Psychic: myself built up before I
Kim Rodriguez: befor you open the floodgates? Skeptic Psychic: befor I openly front gates. Yes,
Kim Rodriguez: I actually met a wonderful lady who I think you would really like who she is a medium, and she works with people on that. If you are interested I can introduce you in a group chat sometime off camera.
Skeptic Psychic: Okay, well, that sounds pretty good, like I said,
Skeptic Psychic: as I so say, as always.
Skeptic Psychic: I see whatever I have as a curse, not a gift.
Skeptic Psychic: because it is so hard to shut it off. Sometimes
Kim Rodriguez: I get that. See, I'm the opposite. My brain goes so fast and so much information.
Kim Rodriguez: In fact, this lady I had a reading done with her few weeks ago, and she described my mind as being like a race track with these cars just racing by and crashing into each other, she explained, that that's how my thoughts are vomit comet
Kim Rodriguez: mine are just racing thoughts all the time crashing into each other. So it was very hard to get a good read but she did say that if I could quiet my mind that I have a potential to be a pretty strong intuitive myself.
Skeptic Psychic: Right well like, I said. My mind is com kind of like the vomit comment meets a miracle round.
Kim Rodriguez: so you just have all this information being dumped on you, and it just keeps going around in circles.
Kim Rodriguez: Interesting.
Skeptic Psychic: I mean, that's the best way I can betray, I mean.
Kim Rodriguez: But, as I said, we have been off, for, you know, a few weeks with the holidays from
Kim Rodriguez: Think. Our last episode
Kim Rodriguez: was back in October. Yes, back on Halloween, and then we took November, December off last week we did do an episode of predictions with Jason.
Kim Rodriguez: and I will go ahead, and link that
Kim Rodriguez: if anybody hasn't seen it yet but would like to. That will be linked in the description
Kim Rodriguez: as well as if you're watching on video. I'll put a link up in the video as well. But let's get into sirens.
Skeptic Psychic: Yes.
Skeptic Psychic: and you know, if you're anything like our research assistant, you probably think.
Skeptic Psychic: why are we doing another episode on aquatic females?
Skeptic Psychic: Well.
Skeptic Psychic: you know, we just covered the mermaids a few weeks back and guess what
Skeptic Psychic: surprise today society tends to consider mermaids and sirens as the same thing.
Skeptic Psychic: However, the using their name prefers. The 2 are not at all alike.
Skeptic Psychic: Mermaids, as we covered in in previous episodes are humans from the waist up and fish from the waist down. Now some stories will tell the sirens of hanging out under water caves and the like.
Skeptic Psychic: But the oldest tales stay different.
Skeptic Psychic: The sirens of ode weren't part of fish at all, but rather the appearance of a beautiful woman.
Skeptic Psychic: but she was really half bird
Kim Rodriguez: isn't that a harpy
Skeptic Psychic: harpy was more of an ugly bird, or sirens were more of a pretty bird
Skeptic Psychic: alright.
Skeptic Psychic: or thinking that bits under those long flowing skirts. But there are also myths adding in wings. But we'll get to that store in a couple of minutes. There's at least one myth that as this sirens were shapely female bodies.
Skeptic Psychic: but and but songbirds
Skeptic Psychic: oh, they were actually female bodies with the heads of a sparrow, they said in the sand the sweetness of strong birds.
Skeptic Psychic: Forgive me for that. Let me repeat that for editing there is at least one myth that insists that the sirens or shapely female bodies.
Skeptic Psychic: but with the heads of a sparrow.
Skeptic Psychic: Thus they said, with the sweetness of a song bird
Skeptic Psychic: even often claimed the sirens were the size and appearance of normal songbirds.
but the human face is deemed them the most beautiful to grace the earth.
Kim Rodriguez: Hmm! So the question we ask now is, what exactly is a siren?
Kim Rodriguez: Well, in Greek mythology a siren was said to be human-like creature
had a alluring voice.
Kim Rodriguez: These were used to entice men to their deaths. Think of like
Kim Rodriguez: I know this is loosely based, and not the best, but
Kim Rodriguez: kind of like the sirens and vampire diaries. You know, they were just like these, really beautiful women
Kim Rodriguez: and their music would lure them into their desk, where they would be eaten alive. So to speak.
Kim Rodriguez: however, Roman poets.
Kim Rodriguez: added to the lore by placing the sirens on small islands that consisted of cliffs and rocks, where nothing rose.
Kim Rodriguez: It is to these dangerous shores that men sail too close, and brick on the crop outcrops hidden within the turning waves. so like they would like be sailing along, you know, low landing site. And all of a sudden they'd see this this
Kim Rodriguez: Land ho! And they would hear this, this music that would kind of permeate through the air.
Kim Rodriguez: leading them towards the land where they would crash up to the these rocks and be victims of assignments.
Kim Rodriguez: And, interestingly enough. The name siren is of Greek origin. as it breaks down into rope on cord and binding entanglement
Skeptic Psychic: interesting. So I guess you know the rope on the cord is the voice luring you in, and then to your tangled in their web, so to speak.
Kim Rodriguez: It's often thought to be an indicator of the role of you know that they played in the Odyssey.
Kim Rodriguez: where Odysseus
Kim Rodriguez: is only able to resist their lower
Skeptic Psychic: and didn't.
Skeptic Psychic: He's actually tied to the mast, while his
Skeptic Psychic: his shipmates all had
Skeptic Psychic: their ears covered in wax,
Skeptic Psychic: and like I said he was tied down to the to the mass of and a as he's going through the anguish and hearing the calls his
Skeptic Psychic: fellow shipmates were us trying to sail away from it.
Kim Rodriguez: Yes, I apologize. I misread that myself.
Kim Rodriguez: He was only able to resist it
Kim Rodriguez: because he was tied to the mask, but he kept yelling for them to untie him
Skeptic Psychic: right.
Kim Rodriguez: and the beauty of the sirens, faces, or
Kim Rodriguez: the human part of their anatomy, so to speak.
Kim Rodriguez: Was not what attracted Odysseus, but it was their song, so like he heard the song he was attracted. He saw them, and he's like that. Never mind, no way not interested.
Kim Rodriguez: but I digress. So, scholar Walter Copland. Perry believed that their song. though it's sweet and irresistible.
Kim Rodriguez: is no less sad than sweet is it? Look! Is it lacked both body and soul
Kim Rodriguez: in a fatal lethargy. the forerunner of death and corruption. So again you hear this gorgeous voice
Kim Rodriguez: you're lured in, and before you can say no thanks, I'm not interested. You're dead.
Skeptic Psychic: no problem continuing on. you know. But what to what purpose? Why would we avoid these strange bird women? And why would they want to destroy ships?
Skeptic Psychic: Sailors drowning out are crushed between the waves and the rocks
Skeptic Psychic: stuck at Circe. Now Circe was a sorceress. tried saying that real quick
Kim Rodriguez: sorcery, the sorcery, sorcery, the sorceries, sorcery, the sorcerers
Skeptic Psychic: that's Circe, the sorceress.
Skeptic Psychic: She was the daughter of the god Ilios.
Skeptic Psychic: in an ocean
Skeptic Psychic: nymph called Peris.
Skeptic Psychic: that claim that the sirens
Skeptic Psychic: to wait there of lay there in the meadows round the Harpies, corpses rotting away the rags of skin shiveling on their bones. Scholars believe that implies that the sirens may be cannibals.
Skeptic Psychic: I told you. Check out, ma'am. Those women eat up those men chop, chop, they do call them into their desk so themselves can feast on the loaded and writing corpses.
Skeptic Psychic: Of course they just may be destructive creatures without souls who thrive on disaster and death.
Skeptic Psychic: Whoo! Sorry! Yeah.
Skeptic Psychic: There are different stories from myth about sirens.
that if you hard to wonder which which is closer than the truth.
Skeptic Psychic: I do like the way that's sounding wonder which which
Skeptic Psychic: is closer to the truth. Roman poet Ovid.
Skeptic Psychic: claim that the young sirens, or once companions to Persephina or Persephone
Skeptic Psychic: when they were she was young upon Hades, abducting Persephone, and keeping her trapped with him and Tartarus. The signs were given hideous wings by the goddess goddess Dementor, so that I can
Kim Rodriguez: Demetor
Skeptic Psychic: so they could search for Persephone. but the story turned on its head by the Latin scholar
Skeptic Psychic: ideas who assisted Demeter, cursed the Sirens for not keeping upper persephony safe.
Skeptic Psychic: and it trapped them on their rocky island, doomed a long life in exile, which only. and by the day mortal men were no longer intimidated. would safely sail by.
Kim Rodriguez: Yes, authors, after Homer's time, have added to the myths, stating that with Odysseus escaping the sirens, despite hearing their song.
Kim Rodriguez: soon as he was out of the range of their voices. they flung themselves into the water
Kim Rodriguez: and drowned in the same waves that they had lured him in time and again.
Skeptic Psychic: Yes, I do want to bring bring up the fact that you did mentioned Odysseus. Jason and his Argonauts were actually tempted by sirens, and only from the sweet voice of the ship crewmate.
Skeptic Psychic: which was Orpheus.
Skeptic Psychic: were they able to sail on without any problems
Kim Rodriguez: interesting?
Kim Rodriguez: Now, Roman historian, Tiny, the elder, thought that the stories of silence were just a fable.
Kim Rodriguez: He did admit, though. that
Kim Rodriguez: the father of an author
Kim Rodriguez: he admired insisted they truly did live in India.
Kim Rodriguez: Apparently the sirens in India lured men to sleep with their sweet lullabies.
Kim Rodriguez: and then turning them to pieces. Again going back 2 vampire diaries. I know it's like Kim Enough, but I digress. There is a scene where the sirens in a pool with a man, and she's.
Kim Rodriguez: you know, humming her lullaby, and the minute it's just there, you know, kinda
Kim Rodriguez: calm and relaxed, just listening to to her song before she devours him.
Kim Rodriguez: now.
Kim Rodriguez: Leonardo da Vitschi wrote in his notes that the sirens sings so sweetly
Kim Rodriguez: cause she can lull the mariners to sleep.
Kim Rodriguez: and then she climbs upon the ship to kill them and their sleep.
Kim Rodriguez: Now, even though the first we hear of the Sirens is in the Odyssey.
Kim Rodriguez: Historians are coming to believe that the year originated in. Believe it or not.
Kim Rodriguez: The Middle East. Yes, I know this is a far fetched far from Greece or Rome.
Kim Rodriguez: but that's where they think that they did
Kim Rodriguez: of start at was the Middle East
Kim Rodriguez: and it seems that through trade routes how they found their way to Greece, meaning the stories, not the Sirens themselves. The Sirens were not on a trade route, but the stories of them were shared through trade route to Greece.
Kim Rodriguez: The difference in appearances in each culture
Kim Rodriguez: dust tend to reflect on their societal views. In Greek mythos it would add a horrific treatment. while the Romans view the beauty of the utmost worth.
Kim Rodriguez: and they tended to change
Kim Rodriguez: change the sirens into these beautiful tints. Tip tresses. Sorry words hard
Kim Rodriguez: it'd be.
Kim Rodriguez: you know, the Greeks were the ones that said that they were part woman, part bird and the robots. Excuse me.
Kim Rodriguez: the Romans said that they were for woman. you know, beautiful women.
Kim Rodriguez: And these tales that we have today have been filtered through the roaming eyes.
Kim Rodriguez: Even, you know, stories such as Medusa have her moment of beauty rather than just being seen a monster, and I know we did talk about that way back when our lizard people episode
Kim Rodriguez: where she was beautiful until she ticked off a god, and then she became.
Skeptic Psychic: He didn't take off her God, she was she was sexually mishandled by a god
Skeptic Psychic: in a temple
Skeptic Psychic: of a of a goddess, and they got us got pissed at that, and decided of punishing the god she punished. Medusa
Kim Rodriguez: in retrospect. Whether it was right or wrong, the god, was pissed off.
Skeptic Psychic: But yes.
Skeptic Psychic: got it. She was actually a because of her beauty. She was a a priestess of Aphrodite.
Kim Rodriguez: Yes, and that would be great for a future episode as well.
Skeptic Psychic: And she I think also she had a
Skeptic Psychic: no, that was another person. but yeah, she was.
Skeptic Psychic: we'll get it. We'll get into the whole
Skeptic Psychic: Medusa for a future episode, Medusa for a future episode as well as the fact of crash of the Titans.
Kim Rodriguez: which is more than just a movie.
Skeptic Psychic: It's 2 movies. Well, it's one movie Redone twice.
Kim Rodriguez: But I digress we will talk about that in another episode.
Skeptic Psychic: Yes, let's continue with the sirens. Alright.
Skeptic Psychic: Now. Sirens, however, were not just noted for their singing. It has been also written that each of sirens could have won of numerous gifts.
Skeptic Psychic: while one possessed a truly sweet song voice, another had the power of compulsion over the mortal minds. another can play.
Skeptic Psychic: Ach! Archly moving music on a lyre.
Skeptic Psychic: not a liar, but a lyre.
Skeptic Psychic: while another rallies down her looks, which even Helen of Troy would probably envy.
Skeptic Psychic: Some of these talents are odd.
Skeptic Psychic: and if you left it, wonder if if something got lost in translation, why would a siren need to have a voice of a young woman
Skeptic Psychic: controlling the winds would be a good one as well as the ability to shape shift. But the siren's one skill was that white stuff which would mean anything
Skeptic Psychic: manipulating snow. The frosty waves are the cream in your cappuccino
Kim Rodriguez: cappuccino.
Kim Rodriguez: So the little cute design made in the cappuccino that's manipulated by the sirens.
Skeptic Psychic: That's that is basically a
Skeptic Psychic: a mermaid with 2 with 2 tails.
Kim Rodriguez: Yes, that's Starbucks, but they're not the only ones who make cappuccinos. I was talking about when you have a cappuccino, and you know how they do the the really cool design in the cream
Skeptic Psychic: or the phone, and they do like a leaf or a heart, or whatever
Skeptic Psychic: maybe.
Kim Rodriguez: Yes, I know the the Starbucks
Skeptic Psychic: symbol is a mermaid with 2 tails, couple of episodes back
Skeptic Psychic: now at the legend of sirens aren't just in the Mediterranean or Asian histories. Northern Europe does have similar legends of their sirens. International arsenal.
Skeptic Psychic: The Rhine River is a major shipping route.
and even though today pilot
Skeptic Psychic: call for locals to help navigate their ships up the river. legend say that a young woman flung herself into the river after her leopard cheated on her
Skeptic Psychic: upon sinking beneath the waters, she was transformed into a siren.
Skeptic Psychic: and even now Lur's sailors on thorin to their death
Skeptic Psychic: her real name not known. So the locals named her L'oreal.
Skeptic Psychic: It's Loreli.
Skeptic Psychic: Loreli. L'oreal tomato tomato
Kim Rodriguez: l'oreal is hair care products.
Skeptic Psychic: makeup and hair care products. Yes. which is why you would actually have a
Skeptic Psychic: it probably named after. Yes, sir.
Skeptic Psychic: local siren.
Kim Rodriguez: Laureli.
Skeptic Psychic: Okay, if you wanna say, Laureli, I still think it's Loriel now, after the rocky cliff on the banks of the of the river, which echoes loud and eerily whenever a ship passes
Skeptic Psychic: lower lie, or Laurie L. Has been blamed not only for the our in ordinary high numbers of shipwrecks within the passage, but also the amplified echoes within that water stretch.
Modern science has deemed that these echoes
Skeptic Psychic: also merely
Skeptic Psychic: Due to the rocks, acting like amplifiers, giving its sensitivity and the way the sound would detect off the cliffs and the opportunity of shore. Sadly urban growth and areas makes lower lie
Skeptic Psychic: odd. An echo's much harder to hear now. but it is still possible to hear the faintly echoes. There is, however, another story of Lor Lie. It says she likes to lay on the rocks on the Rhine River.
Skeptic Psychic: and that if you see her you will faintly to have a horrible death.
Kim Rodriguez: Yes, As you can see.
Kim Rodriguez: the Irish believed sirens were actually evil mermaids that traveled between dry land and sea, using a
Kim Rodriguez: magic cat.
Kim Rodriguez: Their hair was the color of the sea, and they boasted scaly skin
Kim Rodriguez: in green and white. The Celts call their sirens marrows. and they didn't sing to seduce the sailors.
Kim Rodriguez: You see, the marrows were also sea fairies.
Kim Rodriguez: What are they called
Kim Rodriguez: so like the dryads are the land puts. I think it's like a near ad or something like that. That is the water. So I guess that would be with the marrow swear.
Kim Rodriguez: and these marrows would take men from the shore to make them live underwater with them.
Kim Rodriguez: The men, however. would find out quickly that you know they can't breathe underwater.
Kim Rodriguez: However, they were bound to the marrows, and you know we're pretty much set to obey and grant every wish or whim.
Kim Rodriguez: So you know, they so basically come with me. Come under water. They get down there, and it's like, Oh, crap! I can't breathe.
Kim Rodriguez: Oh, well, she's so beautiful I can't resist. I'll go with her to my to my last breath.
Skeptic Psychic: Okay, correction on that. Dryads were the oak tree nymphs and the nyads were freshwater nymphs.
Skeptic Psychic: and they hear it. New reads for the cnips or reads or mountainips.
Kim Rodriguez: Okay, so these would be, I guess the see. Sea ferries would be the near reads
Kim Rodriguez: interesting.
Kim Rodriguez: Now, if we move over to Scotland.
Kim Rodriguez: they do have a creature that they call the kiosk.
Kim Rodriguez: This animal or creature or woman.
Kim Rodriguez: whatever you want to call her.
Kim Rodriguez: has an upper body of a woman
Kim Rodriguez: and the tail of a salmon fish.
Kim Rodriguez: These mystical women have several different legends around them.
Kim Rodriguez: The first is that they marry men.
Kim Rodriguez: and you know they have their their offspring. That becomes a great seller.
Kim Rodriguez: Another story says that she can grant 3 wishes, so she's like a genie.
Kim Rodriguez: This is only if you catch her, though. So remember, fish are kind of slippery.
Skeptic Psychic: No, it's almost similar to the leprachaun.
Kim Rodriguez: Yes, but it's Scotland
Skeptic Psychic: right? Scotland.
Kim Rodriguez: Yes. like the sirens. This spotter slash didn't lure men, chew her.
Kim Rodriguez: but was rather pursued, and was constantly avoiding capture.
Kim Rodriguez: However, the most deterred disturbing claim is that she is malevolent and likes to swallow me at all.
Kim Rodriguez: So the old, I mean trying to visualize, I mean, her mouth would have to open pretty wide for that. But
Kim Rodriguez: The only way her victims can't be saved is if someone finds and destroys the magical egg that contains her soul.
Kim Rodriguez: Okay, so the Arabians have a form of a female ge that appears to live beside any body of water.
Kim Rodriguez: Her name was El Nadahha.
Kim Rodriguez: or female collar.
Kim Rodriguez: and
Kim Rodriguez: she is said to have a voice that never fails to enchant sailors.
Kim Rodriguez: Sailors who went missing were said to be taken by El Nahada.
Kim Rodriguez: She only appears at night.
Kim Rodriguez: and so that would explain why anyone searching for their missing loved ones would not be able to find them during a daylight search.
Kim Rodriguez: So why don't they search at night?
Skeptic Psychic: Because it's dark?
Kim Rodriguez: Yes, but if you know, she only appears at night and she's taken him, you would think that they would search at night
Skeptic Psychic: again. It's dark we're talking about, you know. people, you know, that don't want to go out at night, because of all the nasty, I mean, they were talking about ancient myths and legends here, you know you don't go out at night that somebody will come.
Skeptic Psychic: come, eat you.
Kim Rodriguez: I was gonna say, there's torches. But okay.
Skeptic Psychic: yeah, even if you have torches, you know.
Skeptic Psychic: Now you want to talk about. Our good friends up there in Russia!
Skeptic Psychic: They believe that a woman who died violently, or by suicide, or doomed to live in the bottom of the rivers or marshes. These women sing siren's songs
Skeptic Psychic: to men who are near by to charm them into sharing their warmth.
Skeptic Psychic: Such men are doomed to die as their energy is slowly drained away.
Skeptic Psychic: There are, however, a happy form of the siren that was introduced to
Skeptic Psychic: Russia through Persia.
Skeptic Psychic: These women are called called
seren.
Skeptic Psychic: and often portrayed as wearing a crown or habeeb like glow or halo like glow. I'm sorry that's not Habib. That's a halo like Glow.
She would sing beautiful songs to the saints.
Skeptic Psychic: though she did frighten those who did not want to hear her. they would eventually ring bells and make loud noise, nerve to hear her away.
Skeptic Psychic: the fear being that if they heard the Sears song that they would forget about the world and follow her, forgetting to eat or drink and slowly die.
Skeptic Psychic: Following this creature
Skeptic Psychic: by the seventeenth century. Late they came across the seren head more into a being it would heavily messenger to a symbol of world harmony.
Skeptic Psychic: She could now only be hurt by those who were happy.
Skeptic Psychic: but she was rarely seen because she was fat and fleeting whenever she wanted.
Skeptic Psychic: She still, however, is a symbol of heavenly happiness and eternally joy.
Skeptic Psychic: 2,012. Let's talk about that. That will report it that the Water minister of Zimbabwe announced delays in building of 2 different reservoirs, because sirens were keeping the workers away.
Skeptic Psychic: 2,012, and, as opposed to the ancient myths. sounds to me like some men, were lazy. Yet more Australian aborigines believe that sirens still live in the rivers.
Skeptic Psychic: They are said to instruct women on issues of fertility.
Skeptic Psychic: and that they were readily seen, as they will quickly jump into the rocks, they sun themselves on, or dive into the river.
Skeptic Psychic: Then the morale that them are
Skeptic Psychic: Mount Baori Maori
Skeptic Psychic: of New Zealand, believe that in
Skeptic Psychic: Pania of the reef, even though commissioning a statue of her city of Napier.
Skeptic Psychic: the statue's inscription reads, an old Maury legends, tells of how Pania.
Skeptic Psychic: lured by the sirens voice of the sea people, swam out to meet her when the endeavoured to return her to her lover, she was transformed into the reef which is now lies beyond the Nabier break waters.
Skeptic Psychic: It is said her soul can still be seen today protecting the sea and our people in sharp the shape of the shark or steam. Right? Woo.
Kim Rodriguez: Yes, now we're going to go down south to Mexico and the Mexican folklore of La Serena.
Kim Rodriguez: which Serena is actually Spanish for mermaid.
Kim Rodriguez: And she is okay.
Skeptic Psychic: Serena. Not is the actual pronunciation.
Kim Rodriguez: Saranda. Yeah. Sorry gotta work on my Spanish a little. It's been a while. She is actually half sea serpent and half humans.
Kim Rodriguez: She is also the goddess of water. This includes rivers. fancies. and it would eventually morph over the years to the goddess of baptism
Kim Rodriguez: in the Philippines. The serena enchant men
Kim Rodriguez: who intend who hypnotizes them with her song, and carries them off into the deep sea to sacrifice them to the water deities.
Kim Rodriguez: There are even stories of the Serena pretending to drown luring men to come save her.
Kim Rodriguez: and then killing those who fall roots. It is said that the creature like sea turtles and dolphins
Kim Rodriguez: usually a company, Serena
Kim Rodriguez: and she is usually seen with them.
Kim Rodriguez: now, surprisingly. Philippine folklore does have a surreal
Kim Rodriguez: or a male version of the sirens who lures the maidens away.
Kim Rodriguez: Others say they are ravished and choose to stay in the sea after they are abducted.
Kim Rodriguez: So it's interesting. Do they drought them, or do they seduce them? Inquiring minds? Wanna know
who knows?
Kim Rodriguez: Yes, now another form of the mail siren is Lenkato. a fresh water dolphin that swims in the Amazon. it is said sometimes to take on the form of a human male.
Kim Rodriguez: The encampment, hypnotizes women
Kim Rodriguez: and takes them underwater to the city of Enca.
Kim Rodriguez: Grown women do have a chance to resist. but virgins have no such hope.
Kim Rodriguez: Some of the women do manage to escape and return home. but if they do, they're pregnant.
Skeptic Psychic: Right? Sounds like a good cover-up for a one-night stand.
Kim Rodriguez: They say that in order to recognize him for what he truly is on land, he will have a ball spot where his blowhole would be if he was in a Boston form.
Kim Rodriguez: So he would be wearing a hat. And it's not just women. Elencanto will just as happily seduce a man should the opportunity arrives.
Kim Rodriguez: So I guess that's a A good excuse for saying, Oh, I'm not gay. I was. I was seduced by Elencanto. I would never be with the man if it wasn't for Elencanto.
Kim Rodriguez: Right? Just complete. Be proud of who you are. People
Kim Rodriguez: continue on.
Skeptic Psychic: Yeah, there are really, is a freshwater River Dolphin, in the Amazon, locally known as Volto.
Skeptic Psychic: and it's also called the Amazon River Dolphin.
Skeptic Psychic: or the Peak River. Dolphin can be found in fresh water. Amazonian
Skeptic Psychic: Arquino River basin. But now it's considered an endangered species. They're really cute. If you've ever seen video of one in Egypt. El navave
Skeptic Psychic: wanders barefoot throughout the Delta region, and is said to be in love with her. Pain and misery be in love with her pain and misery. She must love her pain and misery.
Kim Rodriguez: Some people like to be suppers, I mean, you've always met those doom and gloom people that just
Skeptic Psychic: thrive and revel in depression or not. I don't want to say depression, but negativity.
Skeptic Psychic: none of the doom and gloom type of people. She does try to use her voice to pull men in from their homes.
Skeptic Psychic: they still will walk for with miles just to reach her where she waits on the river bank of the Nile or their tributaries.
Skeptic Psychic: None of the bodies have been found, so it's not known if she drowns em
Skeptic Psychic: or eats them. or the study.
Skeptic Psychic: or if you're either in the deep world.
Skeptic Psychic: Who knows?
Skeptic Psychic: It is said, if you try to stop these men from reaching the river, you'll become her next victim.
Skeptic Psychic: Now, now in the waters. We've already discussed about the the pink dolphin in the waters of Brazil and Colombia.
Skeptic Psychic: The Yarra are said to be good and bad.
They fall in love with men and stay with them until death.
Skeptic Psychic: They're also blamed for missing people and lost boats.
Skeptic Psychic: There is a mermaid version who is said to be a lot more forceful, and love having nothing to do with it
Skeptic Psychic: but rather dominant and cruelty.
Skeptic Psychic: Yarra, both male and female, are said to not care whether a person is married or promised, they actually prefer the mayhem that is created when our relationship is destroyed.
Skeptic Psychic: Yeah.
Skeptic Psychic: Got some cheating creatures there? Yes.
yeah, there is a legend of a go ship in the region that appears strangely with bright lights that can be seen for miles, and with music that carries from long distance.
Skeptic Psychic: The ship is manned with a crew of sailors that have been missing limbs or visible deformities.
Skeptic Psychic: Any who board the ship and joined the party eventually becomes the crew, their deformities.
Skeptic Psychic: and any of the crew who notices that you're staring punish you by twisting your map off
Skeptic Psychic: and wrenching down your head around. Mostly, though, the ship is crewed by the drowned who are still collected
Skeptic Psychic: from the sea.
Skeptic Psychic: What does this have to do with sirens? Well.
Skeptic Psychic: there are 3 figures who learned these souls on board
Skeptic Psychic: Lasadi, Kaluje.
Skeptic Psychic: La Pinocchio and their brother Aleppo.
Skeptic Psychic: Anyone alive that pinkway? Okay. Anyone alive that is lured by the ship becomes a slave to this crew, and once their legs are wrenched around to hold out their own backs.
Skeptic Psychic: I think that kind of reminds me of I don't know.
Kim Rodriguez: No.
Skeptic Psychic: Have you seen the movie? I have. It's actually really cute. I liked it. But II was thinking more of
Kim Rodriguez: The pirates of the Caribbean.
Kim Rodriguez: where I think it's dead. Man tells no tells or something like that. The one with
Kim Rodriguez: yeah, that's what that reminds me of. You know where anybody who comes part of is true gets
Kim Rodriguez: crew. It becomes to deformed and misfigured
Skeptic Psychic: well, let's take a trip back to Europe and visit France.
Kim Rodriguez: as it is the home to Melucine.
Kim Rodriguez: This is the female spirit of fresh water.
Kim Rodriguez: and kind of like this can be found in a holy well.
Kim Rodriguez: or even a river.
Kim Rodriguez: Now the story goes that King of Scotland went hunting and came across a beautiful woman named Prasine.
Kim Rodriguez: and he wanted to marry her.
Kim Rodriguez: and he did marry her only after he promised he would not enter a room whenever she gave birth. or while the child, bathed.
Kim Rodriguez: Now proceeding gives birth to 3 triplets. Girls
Kim Rodriguez: she named these girls Melucine.
Kim Rodriguez: Meliora.
and
Kim Rodriguez: Palatine.
Kim Rodriguez: Now, naturally, the King breaks his agreement
Kim Rodriguez: and sees Presine bathing 468
Skeptic Psychic: He saw them naked. He saw pristine naked bathing
Kim Rodriguez: so her and her girls wind up on the island of Avalon
Kim Rodriguez: and the Green, and they stay there till the girls turn 15.
Kim Rodriguez: Now it is then that Melocene asked her mother why they have to remain on Avalon.
Kim Rodriguez: Upon learning of her father's broken promise. She plans revenge.
Kim Rodriguez: the girls capture and imprison the king.
Kim Rodriguez: and
Kim Rodriguez: they, you know, they take him along with his riches and to a mountain.
Skeptic Psychic: Yes, interesting about Avalon. That's also where did I say that? King Arthur waits for his For his return, surrounded by 3 maintenance.
Skeptic Psychic: Interesting! I wonder if it's the same maidens, I don't know.
Kim Rodriguez: Well, just say that, you know when Priscine does discover what the girls have done, she punishes them.
Kim Rodriguez: Metocene, the culprits. I guess you could say not the culprit, but the mastermind behind the whole ordeal
Kim Rodriguez: is for is first to take the form of a serpent from the waist down once a week.
Kim Rodriguez: Now, later on, a man named Ramon Dean
Kim Rodriguez: comes across menacing in a French forest outside of Point 2
Kim Rodriguez: and wants to marry her.
Kim Rodriguez: Medicine agrees only if he promises never to enter the bath. On Saturdays
Kim Rodriguez: pair have 10 sons before his curiosity gets the best of help. and so he decides to sneak a peek at her bathing on Saturday nights. He sneaks a peak to see her serpent tail all
Kim Rodriguez: for the world to see.
Kim Rodriguez: He does keep her secret for a while, as how one of their sons kills his younger brother.
Kim Rodriguez: Raymond Dean.
Kim Rodriguez: who is grieving for his son accuses Melocene of being a serpent, and therefore unable influence.
Kim Rodriguez: Now I know that there's some influencers out there, but you know this is kind of like taking it to another extreme.
Skeptic Psychic:
Kim Rodriguez: After, you know, being accused of being this evil influence, she then decides to transform herself into a dragon.
Kim Rodriguez: and Liz Raymondine, with 2 rings before flying away, to never be seen again.
Kim Rodriguez: However, she does return at night to nurse their children, who were still infants.
Skeptic Psychic: Now there are so several French royal houses who claim to be the senate of Mausoleum.
Skeptic Psychic: the Luciano family who ruled the Cyprus for 1192 to 1489, as well as the court of Luxembourg. Lucia, however, is still debated as whether she is or isn't descended of a mermaid or a siren.
Skeptic Psychic: The courts of Luxembourg claim that the kinship to Mussolini through the ancestors of Bevelican of or German descent.
Kim Rodriguez: I'm sorry that's Belgian
Skeptic Psychic: Belgium spelled wrong
Kim Rodriguez: a Belgian or German descent, descent, right border shift, seem to make nationality a little bit muddy.
Skeptic Psychic: This ancestor, Siegfried of Ardennes, who founded Luxembourg and married Methuselim. who met Selina. Well, Selina.
Skeptic Psychic: who magically created his castle that rests on the fortified Bach Rock back in 9 63 A. D.
Skeptic Psychic: She, as with others before insisted on marriage terms of one day of privacy a week
Skeptic Psychic: naturally over time.
Skeptic Psychic: Siegfried. gets curious and spouse Mo Lucelina
Skeptic Psychic: lounging in her bath and recognizers that she isn't fully human.
Skeptic Psychic: and Lucilina and her bathtub stink
Skeptic Psychic: go into the ground where she becomes entrapped.
Skeptic Psychic: Still, she allows to appear every 7 years, and you never know which form she will possess woman or serpent
Skeptic Psychic: whenever she appears. There has got to be a golden key in her mouth that any one could take from her.
Skeptic Psychic: and if they are brave. that key will free her from the imprisonment, and she will be then your bride
Skeptic Psychic: each time he fears an No. One claims, O the keys that she adds a single stitch to her linen! Shameez!
Skeptic Psychic: That
Skeptic Psychic: she is sewing
Skeptic Psychic: the story! Say that a shame is finished before anyone freezer and the city of Luxembourg will sink into the rock and become trapped alongside with her. So you gotta wait until she
be? You gotta make sure you do it before she finishes selling.
Kim Rodriguez: Yeah. So hurry up. People. I mean, this has been how long
Skeptic Psychic: we don't wanna love to to, like, you know, go into the ground.
Skeptic Psychic: This is from 9 63 Ad. Up to this.
Skeptic Psychic: Now, Germany has another tale of the Celine
Skeptic Psychic: the what? Who is set in the forest of Charlenvad Shreleva.
Skeptic Psychic: where a young woman comes across Mussolina, or young man in her natural form of half woman half surfin.
She tells him that you will kiss him 3 times over 3 days.
Skeptic Psychic: and that which she will be free and able to wed him. The young man is endured by her beauty, and he no has no trouble kissing her 3 times that day, but when
Skeptic Psychic: he arrives the following day she is less beautiful and more monstrous. He somehow manages to restore the 3 kisses on her before feeding back home. The third day he has to work up the courage
Skeptic Psychic: to go up into the forest and kiss her. but Pelus Lean meets him in fully ugly and repulsive form. Her reptilian side is in full bloom, and he flees in horror without a single kiss.
Skeptic Psychic: He decides to marry a different girl. but they and their weddings party all die from the serpent venom that is somehow
Skeptic Psychic: laced
Skeptic Psychic: throughout the entire feed.
Skeptic Psychic: Somebody got revenge. Yeah.
Kim Rodriguez: Now you know. tales of Missolini did get around Europe and found their way to Britain.
Kim Rodriguez: where she was known as a water ferry. who abducted children and left change links in their place. Again we did talk about change links in our
Kim Rodriguez: opposite about fairies.
Kim Rodriguez: So if you want to find out more about them, you could
Kim Rodriguez: catch that episode.
Kim Rodriguez: She is also said to be a dean and wife in the tale of Richard the First.
Kim Rodriguez: According to the story, King Richard was a descendant of a Count of Anjou.
Kim Rodriguez: who encountered Melucine during his travels away from home. The Count Westmittent and the 2 were wed
Kim Rodriguez: with Messline. He did have 4 sons. Apparently she very rarely went to church, and always left in the middle of the mass.
Kim Rodriguez: Now this made King Richard grow suspicious. and he eventually ordered his men to restrain her.
Kim Rodriguez: but before she can be restrained. She rises into the air, and in full view flies off the church
Kim Rodriguez: through the highest window with her. She takes her 2 youngest sons.
Kim Rodriguez: one of the suns left behind apparently
Kim Rodriguez: grew to have what is called a troublesome nature.
Kim Rodriguez: This, they say, was because of her demonic excuse me. this was because of her demonic lesion. leanage.
Skeptic Psychic: lineage.
Kim Rodriguez: lineage, lineage.
Kim Rodriguez: tomato, tomato.
Kim Rodriguez: Richard's for Richard, the first mother, who was Eleanor of Akita Akitane
Kim Rodriguez: was a similar account in her marriage to King Henry the Second.
Kim Rodriguez: According to a fourteenth century author.
Kim Rodriguez: Eleanor's name was actually Cassidorian.
Kim Rodriguez: as she bore the king 2 sons and a daughter.
Kim Rodriguez: When King Henry forced Cassidorian to remain for the entirety of mass.
Kim Rodriguez: She grabs their daughters and fled through the church roof. Neither were seen again.
Kim Rodriguez: I bet you're asking yourself, however, how do these stories relate to sirens?
Kim Rodriguez: Well, according to Plato. all sirens fell into one of 3 categories. They were either celestial under the authority of Zeus
Kim Rodriguez: generative. which we're under Poseidon.
Kim Rodriguez: or purificate Pugh purificatory sirens
Kim Rodriguez: who served Hades.
Kim Rodriguez: Now the majority of sirens appear to to fall under Hades
Kim Rodriguez: Ovid changed things a bit and explained that they were only considered hate Hades due to his abduction of Persephone
Kim Rodriguez: and forcing her to marry him, which we talked about earlier.
Kim Rodriguez: It's either that they were
Skeptic Psychic: supposed to guard her or save her.
Skeptic Psychic: Now. There is also another former siren put forward
Skeptic Psychic: by the reformist, Martin Luther.
Skeptic Psychic: who liken Methuselene of Luxembourg, is that of Satan.
Skeptic Psychic: either appearing in female form, or to seduce men, or sending his siren to do his bidding
Skeptic Psychic: as such Vicilini. not Mussolini. Melucina Melucina was, as known in Germany, was the same devilish creature in disguise.
Skeptic Psychic: Sorry to tempt desires of a man.
Skeptic Psychic: and the acronatica Jason is warned by Chyron that the Bard Opeous.
Skeptic Psychic: which I mentioned at the start of the start of the Podcast a
Skeptic Psychic: Kairon. Says, Hey, take Orpheus with you he can be real help.
Skeptic Psychic: So if Jason agrees, not knowing that, not understanding the fact of how a musician could ever help him on on his journey. When the Argonauts sailed past the siren line up
Skeptic Psychic: Siren Island, Orpheus hears their song, and he puts out his lyre and plays even more beautifully than the sirens could say.
Skeptic Psychic: drowning at their song.
Skeptic Psychic: Prince Virus, however, had already heard the siren song, and dove into the sea.
Skeptic Psychic: but is spared by the goddess Aphrodite, Aphrodite, Aphrodite to carry him away.
Skeptic Psychic: How many sirens were there? Myths? Changes from story to story!
Skeptic Psychic: Odysseus was controlled by 2 sirens. though Playo insisted. There were 8 of em.
Skeptic Psychic: The names and numbers have changed from tail to tail. Modern scholars have upped the numbers to 10.
Skeptic Psychic: Even their parent is, is a nightmare
Skeptic Psychic: with the individual. Signs. Have multiple god and goddess listens as their parents, depending on which account you'll interest.
Skeptic Psychic: no matter how many, miss, insisted. The sirens are partly Ivan
Skeptic Psychic: artists were quick to drop the birdie like elements instead, illustrating as
Skeptic Psychic: seductive nymph like women with lawns blowing near billowing togas wraps seductively to leave little to the imagination.
Skeptic Psychic: You know you're probably looking in the Abbott of perfection.
Skeptic Psychic: Clay pottery, however, kept the avian look far longer than the worship of sirens favored into security. It wasn't until the Middle Ages that Cyrus took a heavy shift and became wrapped around with the stories of mermaids.
Skeptic Psychic: Arch from time sendeth descended on the painfully sirens and mermaids from the same brush, though some still clung the odor ways.
Kim Rodriguez: You know. Oddly enough, while we know that mail sirens were a thing. You know. We know this because of art. That is still being unearthed, that depict these half mid half bird creatures.
Kim Rodriguez: All the myths surrounding male sirens have been lost to time.
Kim Rodriguez: The art depicting such features appears to have stopped by around the fifth century before Christ's birth
Kim Rodriguez: stories must have inspired these artesians. However, we have yet to find them.
Kim Rodriguez: Now you would think it odd that someone would want to worship a siren.
Kim Rodriguez: However, between 4, 79, and 3 23 BC. Sirens were often used as a funeral icons as either small statuary that stayed with the mourner
Kim Rodriguez: car, figurines that capped headstones are carved into relief
Kim Rodriguez: on a gravestone's upper surface.
Kim Rodriguez: You know that kind of makes sense, because the fact that you know they they were tied to Hades, which is the god of the underworld. So it makes sense that they would be part of a, you know, funeral ceremony
Kim Rodriguez: But siren worship, such as it was, was the most popular along the Italian coast.
Kim Rodriguez: the story being that when a siren killed itself. the coastal napal city is where the bodies washed ashore.
Kim Rodriguez: The islands named the the islands off of their coast after the Sirens. and considered them as sacred places
Kim Rodriguez: after the time of Christ and the rise of Christianity. These pagan beliefs, like sirens, were not our unearthly beings.
Kim Rodriguez: Christian Bishop Isidore of Seville wrote that somewhere between 606, 36 A. D.
Kim Rodriguez: The siren is considered an allegory of a temptation of woman.
Kim Rodriguez: a seductress that overcomes man's better judgment. leading them to sorrow. Just love, how our us women get them
the shortage of a stick.
Hmm!
Kim Rodriguez: There were 3 sirens, he wrote. speaking of Greek mythology. part virgins, and part birds with wings and claws. One of them sang, while another played the flute.
Kim Rodriguez: the third played a liar or a leader.
Kim Rodriguez: They drew the sailors decoying by song
Kim Rodriguez: to shipwreck. According to the truth, however.
Kim Rodriguez: these were just prostitutes who led the travelers down poverty, and were said to impose strict ship shipwreck on them.
Kim Rodriguez: His belief as to why they had wings and claws was because love flies and wounds and thought they stayed on their island in the waves because it was a wave that created Venus.
Skeptic Psychic: He's been. I'm so sorry
Skeptic Psychic: you. Okay.
Skeptic Psychic: Now, sirens may have been an old World belief. but that doesn't stop them from cropping up in modern times.
The movie.
Skeptic Psychic: O brother, where art thou starring? George Clooney had a memorials, memorable scene of 3 water, soaked women seductively singing and doing all things
Skeptic Psychic: laundry in the stream. Such semantic stores certainly do not stop the art trio of anti heroes from falling under their spell.
Skeptic Psychic: But in the movie, after loosely based on the Odyssey in person, you know.
Skeptic Psychic: And then we talked about Percy Jacket and this Percy Jackson in the Sea of monsters.
Skeptic Psychic: Anabet tries to listen to the sirens song just as Osi Odysseus did, though Annabeth nearly dies because of it. So
Skeptic Psychic: again.
Kim Rodriguez: you know, dad, I'm sorry to interrupt.
Kim Rodriguez: Dad loved! Where, oh, brother, where art thou?
Kim Rodriguez: That was one of his favorite movies. He kept telling me every time I saw him.
Kim Rodriguez: Have you seen? Oh, brother, where are no dad? Oh, you've got to see it is such a cute movie. It's one of his favorites
Kim Rodriguez: that's swore by it.
Skeptic Psychic: I actually, I take that back. I actually did actually see the last 5 min of the movie where he rescues the you know.
Skeptic Psychic: I haven't seen it. So just say, last 5 of the movie, yeah, last 5 min, the movie.
Skeptic Psychic: Now.
Skeptic Psychic: even marketing gets involved, like when the Starbucks coffee was being porned back in 1971 being from Seattle, the co-founders decide to keep the business centered around the fact that Seattle is a shipping town with a busy port.
Skeptic Psychic: Terry Heckler, co-founder and corporate artist, wanted to thrill. Is that his partner, Gordon Bauer, wanted to name the company. Pequod.
Skeptic Psychic: after fictional whaling ship. and Herman Neville's. Moby Dick
Skeptic Psychic: both loved the story, but Terry had a hard time believing anybody would find the cup of Pequod tempting.
Skeptic Psychic: wanting a local tie in for the brand. And since Matt Ranier is living over the Puget Sound was the most easy identifier trademark in the area.
Skeptic Psychic: Terry started researching the names of some of the Rainier old mining camps. thinking that maybe that'll be a suit a suitable name.
Skeptic Psychic: The Starborough Mining Company was named after Peter Strawbro. who owned a copper mine, which ran from 1910 to 19 twenties.
Skeptic Psychic: It never amounted to much, but Terry, a huge fan of Moby Dick
Skeptic Psychic: mistakenly read it as Starborough. The name stuck with him and reminded him of Starbuck.
Skeptic Psychic: the first mate on the Pequod.
Skeptic Psychic: Once he went to Gordon with a name. There was no turning back for the logo itself. The men started digging through the old merit maritine books, and came across a siren
Skeptic Psychic: which some people claim is a mermaid, but we now know the siren. Terry loved the look and used it as an inspiration to drop his original logo. She had a facelip, and over the years.
Skeptic Psychic: but with the remain tried and true the original design. When asked
Skeptic Psychic: if they wanted to siren to best re represent the region, and by the brand. Terry would explain it being as Seattle.
Skeptic Psychic: They felt, a strong connection with the fugit sound itself, and they coffee beans. They shipped directly to Seattle on a huge cargo container ship and unloaded at the dock downtown, that she would perfectly represent both the region and the product, not saying that this part of their thinking at the time. But how do you possibly resist a siren song of a good old fashioned cup of Joe?
Skeptic Psychic: Easily.
Skeptic Psychic: The scent in the air still takes the deep drive through lines of long and profit. Margins
Skeptic Psychic: would not so long ago. The only logo you'd be willing to buy yourself would be, say Adidas or Nike. The world became proud to walk around, to be seen sipping from that white and green coop.
Kim Rodriguez: Now I do love the smell of coffee. It is one of the most
Kim Rodriguez: I don't know for me it it's just a very calming sense, in fact, Mercy and I, when we go to the grocery store, and we go near the coffee aisle. We have to walk up to where they had a fresh ground coffee and just taken a huge whip.
Skeptic Psychic: It's just one of my favorite smells.
Kim Rodriguez: Now the phrase siren song is part of our culture.
Kim Rodriguez: Even our modern-day divas are partially derived from sirens. So can you picture like Whitney Houston, Maria Carey, Dolly Parton?
Kim Rodriguez: You know these are women that could be silenced because of their beauty of their voice.
Kim Rodriguez: They are women with beautiful voices and beguiling images. and they were often slapped with the name diva.
Kim Rodriguez: This was shortened from the original prima donna
Kim Rodriguez: in the operatic service circles.
Kim Rodriguez: However. since it's first appearances, a diva
also comes to be seen with a negative label.
Kim Rodriguez: You know, these are usually the women who are high maintenance nightmares who believe themselves above the world.
Kim Rodriguez: It doesn't help that in today's society that we so readily place them on pedestals
Kim Rodriguez: regarding I'm sorry, regardless of how they treat their fellow men
Kim Rodriguez: so. It seems like society throughout the world, have often looked for someone tantalizing out of reach that they can PIN their hopes and dreams upon.
Kim Rodriguez: You know, in its heyday even Hollywood had its own sirens
Kim Rodriguez: hailing seductively and beautiful or charming women of the silver screen.
Kim Rodriguez: Some of them were Audrey Hepburn, you know my idol, love her to death, others Mae West and Marilyn Monroe.
Kim Rodriguez: however, of kind of such style. Such starlets were not only herald for their beauty, but also for their scandalous antics offscreen.
Kim Rodriguez: that the Hollywood gossip thrived upon. The title wasn't meant as an insult, as many women embraced the moniker as it spent nothing more than you know they were dangerously beautiful.
Kim Rodriguez: Monroe, however, was one of the rare women who hated the idea that she was only seen for her sex appeal
Kim Rodriguez: these days. A woman is more likely to side with Maru and reject the title.
Kim Rodriguez: as we would rather acknowledge
Kim Rodriguez: more for
Skeptic Psychic: what their talent is than being just a pretty face.
Skeptic Psychic: Now we do also want to talk about why create sirens. In the first place, even the strangers of myths had to be inspired by something
Skeptic Psychic: sirens, sea masters, fantastical phenomenon to do Deedu such as Bermuda triangle with preferable answer to why some ships left part and never returned.
Skeptic Psychic: or why? Some sailors went overboard. When the rest of the crew made it back to safety to port.
Skeptic Psychic: no one wanted to think of a loved one so depressed and despondent that they would rather jump overboard to Drown at sea
No. One.
Skeptic Psychic: and that their beloved was tricked an to pent.
Skeptic Psychic: Oh, look, I pet!
Skeptic Psychic: If it hadn't been for the said See, master, or the siren, or other misguided creations then their husband, lover or father, son surely would have returned to them.
Skeptic Psychic: No one really wanted to believe that they were cherished. that the person they cherish could have been lost to hurricanes or unseen rocks or reefs under the waves. Which is odd if you think about it.
Skeptic Psychic: wouldn't you rather want to think that the person intended to return, but was caught by circumstances, that they lost the fight, and rather than blaming some supernatural being, dragging them to the death.
Skeptic Psychic: But then, in some ways sirens are linked to harpies.
Skeptic Psychic: but only so far as they are both descended from gods of water.
Skeptic Psychic: and have both female and male avian body parts.
Skeptic Psychic: Oh, both female and avian body parts! The harpies were rather seen as brutish beasts, who befowed and besmirked every thing they touched, which was bellied up to the beauty of their faces. Harpies were held to an
Skeptic Psychic: to an island warn't hell to an island, but flock
Skeptic Psychic: flawed wherever they wiled up and thoroughly swept of their faces. Their voices were ugly, mocking things.
Kim Rodriguez: Now there are tales of sirens interacting with others rather than simply seeing sailors to their doom.
Kim Rodriguez: Much such tale has 2 different endings, though
Kim Rodriguez: in both the Sirens challenge the 9 Muses to a singing contest. and of course the sirens lose.
Kim Rodriguez: the more popular ending is that the muse claimed as their prize the feathers that covered the sirens, wings, and bodies. And that's how they became featherless.
Kim Rodriguez: Now. The darker version, however.
Kim Rodriguez: has the Sirens themselves plucking out their own feathers in defeat before leaping to the seas and becoming Lukaine Island
Kim Rodriguez: off the coast of Crete.
Kim Rodriguez: Now Lukaine
Kim Rodriguez: literally translates to featherless.
Kim Rodriguez: Now.
Kim Rodriguez: was there? Ha! Was there perhaps a way to survive? If you came across one
Kim Rodriguez: majority of cultures in history seem to agree that sirens charmed anyone.
Kim Rodriguez: Male, female, boy, girl, cat, dog.
Kim Rodriguez: anyone is victim of their song.
Kim Rodriguez: The reason we can hear the sirens in relation to sailors is because it used to be that only men who went to sea while the women folk stayed home.
Kim Rodriguez: Now occasionally women went along for the ride.
Kim Rodriguez: and they were just as capable of drowning as the men around them.
Kim Rodriguez: and the sirens certainly weren't going to make an exception to save her
Kim Rodriguez: depending on which myth you subscribe to the possibility.
Kim Rodriguez: you know, include salt, which keeps a siren on her island rather than escape to the mainland.
Kim Rodriguez: Bronze daggers, bronze daggers
Kim Rodriguez: are dipped in the victim's blood, or an arrow shot from a bow of a hero.
Kim Rodriguez: Modern scholars have suggested that these days anyone who, for whatever reason.
Kim Rodriguez: are not attracted to women, can easily escape their clutches.
Kim Rodriguez: So
Kim Rodriguez: you know, before you congratulate, congratulate yourself from being off the hook.
Kim Rodriguez: Do you consider this.
Kim Rodriguez: Given how distracted our society is these days with our Internet phones.
Kim Rodriguez: you know, social media
Kim Rodriguez: odds are that if a siren ever did exist. they are definitely gone by now. having drowned themselves in a world where they are drowned at.
Kim Rodriguez: or are they?
Skeptic Psychic: Are they? Yeah, we're not saying that our modern day. Conveniences are wrong. but they are pretty overwhelming.
Skeptic Psychic: Could you just go for the worst without checking your social media feeds just 7 little days.
Skeptic Psychic: Azar? You can't. And that's fine.
Skeptic Psychic: You're in the company with billions upon billions around the world, on the average, that a typical working age person in the US. Spends more than 2 and a half hours a day using social platforms.
Skeptic Psychic: Other countries, numbers average both higher and lower, depending on location.
Skeptic Psychic: but that 2 and a half hours just on social media like X, Facebook and Instagram.
Skeptic Psychic: Take a look at your day to day life.
Skeptic Psychic: How often do you listen to music with your headphones on or out in your car with a radio blast. How about watching videos on Youtube, Tiktok and like during the day or stream movies in the shows to your portable devices.
Skeptic Psychic: What about video gaming
Skeptic Psychic: or listening to audio books? Many of us are so distracted for what's going on around us. Is it our technology?
Skeptic Psychic: Is it modern day sirens
Skeptic Psychic: can dry fits, keep us unaware of dangers around us?
Skeptic Psychic: How many of us have bumped into someone or something, because we're busy looking down at our phones.
Skeptic Psychic: How many people of us miss on real conversations because we're scanning our platforms? How many
Skeptic Psychic: tuned out the world because we don't want to listen to it. Lift our eyes from every page because we are thrown into such a thrilling part of a story.
Skeptic Psychic: We're not saying that any of these things are bad, or that you'll be spending too much time on that.
Skeptic Psychic: What's the use of pointing out this? Every anything that can become a distraction if we allowed ourselves to only be focused. Maybe the Greeks had a right with the allegory of temptation
Skeptic Psychic: that there's also an argument that also goes deeper than that.
Kim Rodriguez: Still, we hope you don't toss podcast onto the leak of distractions, especially not ours. Yes. Please continue to listen to ours because we do plan to be around for quite some time.
Kim Rodriguez: and we are counting on your I'm sorry we are counting on you to boast our numbers. So if you can join this just a little bit. you know, introduce us to like-minded friends.
Kim Rodriguez: We can be found@theskepticsyik.com. And in our Facebook group. skeptic, psychic. we invite you to join a join us there where you can hear.
Kim Rodriguez: then talk with like-minded people. and you know, ask questions, share a meeting or 2,
Kim Rodriguez: but
Kim Rodriguez: we also ask, do you believe sirens exist? What are your thoughts about them? Let us know in the comments.
Kim Rodriguez: Richard, what are your thoughts?
Skeptic Psychic: a very good allegory of the fact of of you know the depression and the anxiety of being out at sea for such a long time. That's kind of really sound interesting.
Skeptic Psychic: I I do remember an episode of ducktales where they were going
Skeptic Psychic: through an adventure similar to the Odyssey, and the only person that wasn't
Skeptic Psychic: put the ears of wax with Scrooge Mcduck. And he's like, Yeah, sure, you know, I I'm pre proposed to, you know the women and the female wiles and the
Skeptic Psychic: cartoon sirens begin talking about how much treasure is over on their island.
Kim Rodriguez: you were a sailor. Did you ever see anything strange when you were out at sea?
Skeptic Psychic: I can't tell you.
Skeptic Psychic: You can't tell us. Nope. Can't tell you.
Kim Rodriguez: Oh, were you sworn to secrecy.
Skeptic Psychic: I just can't tell you.
Kim Rodriguez: Interesting.
Kim Rodriguez: So, that concludes our episode. Well, before I
Kim Rodriguez: include us? I have a a friend who I was talking to the other day, and I was telling her about this episode, and she has a very interesting theory.
Kim Rodriguez: Her theory is that all these things do exist, such as sirens, mermaids, vampires, werewolves. You name it.
Kim Rodriguez: She believes that they all exist, but they are in like
Kim Rodriguez: different dimensions.
Kim Rodriguez: I don't know what are your thoughts, do you? I know you believe in alternate dimensions. Do you think possibly things could be around, and another to mention in another timeframe.
Skeptic Psychic: Well, I actually believe that that something like that can. Actually, you know.
Skeptic Psychic: you know the thing we as we stated before, maybe we need to turn off our devices and actually go out and see the world as it is. Maybe the sirens are actually there.
Kim Rodriguez: Interesting example.
Kim Rodriguez: Yes. Well, we definitely need to do on an episode on dimensions sometime.
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Skeptic Psychic: Dick? Do I? Cat's sake?
Skeptic Psychic: Oh, no! Those dress. Quattro Sinko
Skeptic Psychic: ish me sad chief. Go!
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Skeptic Psychic: and unpleasant nightmares. Good night, everybody. Good night.