Hey, how you you guys doing today and welcome once again to the skeptic sidekick where we
Kind of have a nice little conversation about. My, Oh, The stuff that creeps you in the night or even beams you up to see Scottie.
With me as always, my sister. My friend, the sweetest thing that Mercy ever has. Kimber Rodriguez.
Hey, how are you doing this week?
I'm doing fine. How are you doing this week?
Doing okay, trying to get myself in the habit of going to bed early and getting up early so that way I can.
You know, like the old saying goes early to bed and early to rise. Makes a person. Healthy, wealthy and wise.
Hmm.
And. Well, I'm not a man, so I can't say makes a man healthy while being wise.
So.
Well, man, it's kind of, means mankind, so.
Either way. Trying to get into a better sleep schedule so that I can get more done during the day and be more productive.
Basically.
I've just lived with the fact of being an insomniac.
Well, I've always been a Who hates getting up early. Dad used to tell me that I could sleep my life away.
As much as I love to sleep.
Says the man who wasn't was a night out.
I got it from you, I guess.
Yep, Mom was the early bird. Jim's got the early bird. You're the night out and where does that put me?
Insomniac.
Yes. Yeah. Yes, I remember.
During the summer times when mom would Leave for work. And Scott would be up at 7 am. Start blasting his stereo as loud as he could throughout the house.
And maybe in bed, pulling the blanket and pillows over my head trying to drown out his music so I could sleep.
Me, Try, watching the national anthem. Going on
Yes. So what are we talking about this week? What is our topic?
Are we talking ghosts, aliens, crypto? Mythological creatures.
Actually, we're gonna be little, actually we're gonna talk about, some this in legends, dealing with sacred birds.
Now. What's the difference between a regular bird and a sacred bird?
I sacred bird is is a
Some. It is maybe a god. A Blessed creature that a got bestowed it's
It's graced upon, you know. Might be a more elastic tail. It might be.
You know, the birds that. Ancient civilizations considered to be
Messenger of the gods or even gods themselves. So you were saying a messenger of a god or a god itself?
Yes, usually sometimes the sacred birds are Part of a story that, may teach a moral lesson.
Interesting. So let's go ahead and get into. The sacred birds.
Alright, so even for the most interested bird or bird watcher, there are some species that you love a little more than others.
Perhaps that yellow rumped wobbler, you finally spotted fitting, flitting across the trees or or the desert road runner who looks nothing like a scout cartoon counterpart.
You can travel far and wide round the world upon the birds and every cabinet and every nation of our planet.
With birds slowly found everywhere. It's no wonder why so many cultures focus on the myths surrounding the species and attribute godlike aspects to the others But what makes one bird perhaps a little more special than another?
It does depend on who you are. As we all are aware, birds differ from climate to climate and can even nest in one area but ignore similar spots.
Miles away. Some version of Mac oratory spinning part of the air up north then flying south for the winter.
Other stay in the same areas, no matter the season.
You know, this is really interesting. I live in South Texas. Like right by Mexico as You know, but maybe our viewers still.
And I remember one year for my husband's birthday in September. Or no. I took it back.
It was actually in I think late November, early December. And we went out to eat with my in loss.
And after we were done eating, we were standing outside chatting. And there was all these. Birds everywhere, you know, on the building, on the the Phone wires, I mean everywhere birds just chirping in the trees So Mercy looks up, looks around and then he asks innocently.
When are these birds gonna go south for the winter?
My you, we're in the South. So we all just laughed and chuckled and got a big kick out of that.
I do note the fact that during the I believe I want to say the winter type, no spring or something like that.
You get an onslaught. Of parents.
Yes, being, next to Mexico, we do get a lot of parrots that fly over across the border to where we live or about 5 min from Mexico.
Yes.
Right. I mean, they only stay for maybe about 2, 3 weeks before they go back, south, but yeah, that's kind of odd that Paris come up.
For the winter and leaving go down in the spring.
Yes, it's very interesting.
But we, we digress.
Yes, sorry, ADHD tangent.
So, you know, whether the rare of populace. Births have certainly gathered the attention of many cultures.
And they have been defied by those who embrace them.
For example, think of Egypt and their love of doth. This is the God of writing, wisdom.
The moon, sacred text. Mathematics, science and magic.
He was known as the Messenger from the Gods. So kind of like cupid, but.
Okay.
You know, this is, I'm not stupid, I'm sorry, Hermes, thank you.
And Mercury.
Hermes, say both had wings just in different places. Yes, and mercury. So thought.
That's the same name by the way for her.
Yes, but F was the, Egyptian version.
And he. Recorded everything, all the history, you know. What the deities. Said or the tails.
And so on. For this reason he was considered the master of knowledge. And he was a patron of scribes.
Europeans who study in the area. You know, and also in later years suspected that thought who had the body of a man in the head of a bird.
Yeah, and he had a long bill. Not, you know, like dollar bills, but you know, his beak.
It occurred downwards.
So they thought he could possibly be either a stork or a heron.
This was again.
Well, they've also say that he could have been abyss.
Yes, again, this was. Because of the shape of his beak. However, it wasn't until the nineteenth century.
That a group of French scientists and naturalists, they figured out that thought was actually the embodiment of the African sacred abyss as you just said.
This was mostly due to the Napoleon. And he claimed that he was defending the French trade.
Interest with Egypt and Syria.
So earlier that. It opened up this. This idea. Upon finding the Rosetta Stone and that paved the way for future people who study Egypt or Egyptologists, Egyptology, however you want to say it.
Yes. Future episode I really love to discuss. I it is kind of a sciencey history, but the interest of the Rosetta Stone of, you know, how it was discovered and how they able to decipher the.
Ancient script of the Egyptians
No, if we're gonna get into the Rosetta Stone, we gotta get into the Akashi records or however you say it.
Cause I know those are supposed to be like somehow connected if that's correct.
Well, the Akasha records.
However you say it. So that would be an interesting one to discuss and I have some friends who study those records.
So maybe we can. Bring on a special guest to talk about that sometime.
Right. Right. Now, like so many cultures that have lived and died over the history of the earth, the Egyptians knowledge of these gods and why they came to you and were worshiped faded from memory as new religions boarded, namely Christianity, Islam, and, and Judaism.
Ancient Egyptians held hieroglyphics as something for a royalty in scribes, not the common man.
With conversations to new religions or the stories of ancient gods faded from everyday life. And we're mostly forgotten until scribes are gone and there was no one living who could read the old won Texas.
But not all coaches turn their back on the way of life. Some died off as naturally or forced into oblivion through war.
So many stories from living past forgot to the world. We have only scratched the surface of what have been lost to time.
But in the National Institute of claims anthropologists have recorded about 3,814 extinct and seepra cultures that have come in God.
And that the number keeps climbing with new digs and discoveries. This is just a lot of history out there.
Many of which just scraping the surface of. The history of how they live and worship merely speculates until more evidence can be brought to life.
And worked out.
Now, we're not gonna have enough time to go through every single ancient civilization.
Cool.
Not actually 4,814 civilizations. Maybe just maybe 3 or 4, 5 at the tops, you know.
Yes, but there is enough information to go around. For you know the next hour or so possibly do a second episode in fact because there's so much So much information that our researcher found when it came to and to sacred birds and in these civilizations.
Usually.
But let's go ahead and start right here at home in the United States. L the Thunderbird, this is surprisingly.
Found in numerous indigenous cultures. Around the country. This is a fierce rapture. And it's held in oral traditions and histories.
And art. Not only on the Pacific Northwest coast, but also in our Southwest, the East Coast.
The Great Lakes and the Great Plains.
Also, interestingly enough, It is a popular entity that in these modern times Has gone on to the to join the Pantheon.
Of other note encrypted like Nessie or even Bigfoot. So.
On a point of order, just to make sure that They've, what they believe to be the Thunderbird, in the crypto zoological world.
Maybe a
Interesting. You know, I've always thought of the Thunderbird myself and maybe this is because of what I see on the the car but I have always pictured the Thunderbird being like a great eagle.
Like a huge. Bigger than the Baldy American bald eagle. I mean, this bird is massive.
And that in my mind is what I've always visualized a thunderbolt looking like.
But most Native American tribes who believe in the Thunderbird They do attribute it to a guardian of the upper world.
And the underworld is usually thought to be governed by a great horned circuit.
Then there's other cultures who have alternated alternative. Oh, sorry, words hard. Alternatively.
Sorry, lost my train of thought. They have claimed that It is an underworld panther. Guarding the underworld.
The Thunderbird created thunder with its flapping weeds.
And lightning bolts through its fierce stare. The Great Plains Tribe, the Oak Kibwe.
Has a mythic bird living in 4 directions. Or you know what we call a 4 points of compass meaning north.
East, South. West. To them, the Thunderbolt was a migratory bird. And it flew back in the spring with the other birds.
Ready to battle the underwater serpent that awakened with warning days. It then fell, flew south.
In the fall, when the underwater spirits calmed and prepared to sleep through the winter.
Now it wasn't just the underwater spirits that these great birds dealt with. But they also punished those who broke.
The tribes moral roles. So I guess if you think about it, you got your physical thumb, I'm sorry, your physical compass.
And then you have your moral compass and so it seems like this bird. Was, you know, kind of.
I.
The great protector of the of the of the compass, whether moro or if, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or.
Exactly.
Yeah, the northern Westcott and Menonese. That they're a tribe that claims that the mountain floats in the western sky.
We're the Thunderbirds trail. These Thunderbirds are messengers of the Great Sun.
Addition to controlling thunder and lightning they also controlled the rain and hail. They spend their time fighting the great horn snakes and preventing them from taking over the world.
In wanting to just. Storybank kind. The whole chunk. Around Wisconsin also hope that if you hold him if you had a vision of Thunderbirds during your fasting rich while changing from a boy to a man.
And the man in question will become a war chief for the people.
Now there are 2 historians of American Adrian Mayer and British natural Tom Holland. But it's not the Spiderman, Tom Highland, but is.
Is it, it is a, historian. Bel that the Thunderbird stories came from being that due to the ancient tribes coming across the fossils of I can.
Terra sources.
Most, historians discount that theory. However, as most tribal images of the Thunderbirds in the petrographs indicate a body shape unlike dinosaurs.
Fossils and that the Thunderberg most certainly had feathers. Appearing similar to a giant eagle.
Wow, so I was right.
So we're both kind of having the, thought on that. Now, and I was right.
There you go.
Yeah, now the Thunderbirds were awful depicted as the waterer of Earth, allowing the earth to bloom and grow after the winter stall.
The Thunderbird is primarily found in North American cultures. However, historians have discovered Africa, Asia, and Europe has similar imagery and stories as the North American cultures.
You know what I always find interesting is When you've got these myths and legends that are so similar.
In different parts of the world. I mean, these are legends that in the time.
There was no communication between like. America and Africa and Asia and Europe. But these tails evolve that are so similar.
Another great example is that of the Great Flood. You know. In Christianity, you know, we're taught of Noah's Ark and this and that, but other countries.
And other religions and other faiths had their story of a great flood. And to me it just fascinates me.
How similar these stories are that If there's no way for us to share these stories with each other.
Then there's got to be some proof that there's some truth. In those stories, cause how else would we have?
Have them. I mean, do I make sense? Am I making sense here or am I just babbling?
You make sense, but you're off topic.
I know that, but you know, just the whole thing about the birds, it makes sense that because other cultures have these same legends that there must have been a bird like this at some point.
Now, there are a couple of variations on the Thunderbird found in native history. These include the rain bird.
And this was a vital part of life. For not only the tribes but You know, also for the Hopi, the Pueblo, the Zoomi tribes.
Mine soon.
Who saw the moonsign Rick Moon. I'm sorry. Thank you. Monsoon rains of the summer.
And these they figured were blessings from the rain bird. They allowed crops to grow. And the people to be fit.
Then you have the Pamola. And this is another bird of weather. Specifically around cold weather. This was known.
Specifically to the abaci. I've been, Please excuse my pronunciations.
Apologize, some of these words are a little difficult, but the Abenaki Nation had the And.
With the PIN-up Scott tribes.
Sorry, discord. Messing me up with the Piniscott tribes.
In Maine, they had a myth. That they believed the Pamola resented the morals that tried to visit.
The mountain home. Which is in this was the highest mountain in Maine. And the tribe close access to climbing this mountain because they did not want to upset this bird, the Paloma.
As the spear beard. This bird was. Not only feared but respected.
And it herald the quiet season of winter. This is when the earth slept prepare itself for the renewing spring.
Now we come down closer to my area and we look at the Mesoamericans. These include the Aztecs, which had the legend, legend of.
Some people say the quitso call. Others say the Tetsakoto. And he was a feathered serpent.
He held boundaries. I'm sorry, he was held as a boundary maker. And this was the go between between the earth and the sky.
There are numerous stories depending on your region.
Miss claimed that he was born of a virgin. Who a god appeared in a dream. I'm sorry, 2, sorry, he was born of a conversion from a god.
Who appeared in a dream.
Or it could be that she's followed an emerald.
Another claims that she was hidden the the womb by an arrow from a god. 9 months later, she then gave birth.
And. This is one of the more strange and beautiful ones.
It is that he was born of a goddess who gave birth to the stars that forms the Milky Way.
No, it's better than being being born in a traveling show and mama used to dance for the money they threw.
Papa did everything they could.
Okay, okay. Gypsies chance and these.
Yes, now
Yes, It's said to have been one of the 4 sons born to God and each assigned their own task.
His task was the Western God of Light, Justice, Mercy and Winds. His brother to the south was the god of war.
To the east was the god of gold and farming. And spring. The Northern God ruled judgment, night, deceit, sorcery, and of the earth.
As such. This wing, serpent god was often considered the morning star and his brothers to the east.
The morning star. The avocado was an inventor of books as well as the calendar and one who brought corn to the world.
He also was over arts and tradesmanship. Merchants and was said to have a cross section of conch cells as a necklace.
This piece called Sprightly Vaulted Wind Jule. And as he was rolling out the winds.
Some offshoots claimed that him to be the symbol of death and resurrection. While some cultures claiming he was opposite opposed to human sacrifice, others claimed He accepted it openly.
Now. I'd also like, another part of the tell of what happened to Kesakado.
Was the, ancient rulers of the Aztecs. Grew tired of his of his knowledge and what according to legend One or 2, his other.
Brothers conspired with the kings.
So. They bount him and put him in a boat and set him off. Drifting off to the shore.
As they lost, as right before they lost sight of them. He vowed one day to seek his revenge upon the Aztecs.
1519.
Shows up, he's blonde hair, blue-eyed. And, is the Aztec rule at that time, believed that Cortez was the return of Kesakao.
In the flesh. But, you know, that could be, you know, what Cortez wanted everybody to believe.
Apparently the only proof this is being that Cortez is to you know told the King of Spain this.
About how gullible the Aztecs were and his anticipated easy conquest of Mexico.
And who wouldn't want to brag about the considering a deity, especially when the king was hardly lackly to shop on a ship and check out the history for himself.
The same histories who believe Cortez was considered a god and pretty much the same one who believed the Cortez has caused the pause.
At the Aztec Empire, though the theory is hotly in. Though the theory is hotly in connect contention.
The Philippines hold the, Ada. And this is a magical bird. That possesses hearing abilities and is song.
The story about the bird holds that King Ferdinando. Was struck with an incurable, incurable disease.
So Queen Valeriana. Oh, allows their 3 sons to search for the Adarna. When the first returns with the bird to inherit the throne.
Of course, the way fairytales in myths go. The other 2 brothers. Conspired against the third.
Who perceives who perseveres nonetheless. And brings the bird home to his father. The Abang, Adana.
Considered the most colorful bard in the Philippine folklore.
Yet the bird has been. Has not been found to truly exist.
Instead, the vividly colored Trogon, which is a native bird.
And ranges, sorry, lost my place. It does. Have a range of beautiful plumage in colors.
This has been nicknamed by the locals as the Ibong Adarna.
However, the historians do consider this bird to only be fiction. And you know, there are many stories about how this bird exists.
Okay. The Philippines consists of 7,641 islands of varying sizes.
So it would be all too easy to have missed an individual, you know, between the few small islands where such a bird could be hiding in place site.
Can you imagine that? 7,641 islands and burying size. I mean, Given that the Philippines must be extremely huge.
Hmm, it's not.
So the IS must be very small.
They are the Philippines is maybe I would say Smaller than Japan.
That's interesting. So what is it like one on each?
Well, it could be the fact that they claimed, islands that,
No, Let's talk about Egyptians again.
They actually have a deed another deity name the new. Who's name was linked to the sun, creation and rebirth.
But then again, most Egyptians gods came and went with many of their attributes overlapping. We speak of the, as the being who created itself rather than being brought to life by other gods.
The new was said to have flown over the waters of the watery abyss that existed before creation.
Who landed on a rock and who, call to determine the nature of creation. The sun god Ra.
Came into being and rose of the abyss of the news car and the world sprang into being.
Bendu was known as the Lord of Jubilees. Do you believe? And I said he would renew himself from time to time.
His name is related to the herd. To rise in brilliance. And it's thought that the Benew was appropriated by the Greeks becoming the Phoenix.
Of the code of different to their cultures. There is an ancient heron ancestor who was as large as a human that went extinct about 1,500 BC.
Who that was discovered. And the United Arab Emirates in 1,977 that once lived in the Arabian Peninsula that historians consider that may have been.
The inspiration. For venue.
Okay, So why not jump over to the Phoenix? The first record of the Phoenix.
Bye name was the Greek historian. Herodotus. And this is around fifth century BC.
It was then revised by other historians. And throughout the years such as Lukin. Pliny the Elder.
Pope Climate the First. Look, I take, Oh, and Isidore of Seville.
Each retold the mythic Venus as the purpose group.
In. You know, rising from the ashes as they say.
However, the Romans expanded it. To include the injuries of their empire. Then the Catholic Church took it over and added the resurrection.
The consecration. Life in Paradise. Christ, the Virgin Mary. And virginity itself.
That's a lot. And The definition of the name was then filtered through English and French languages.
After going from Egypt to Greece. The Romans and the Vatican. So after all these have, you know, modeled up what the name even breaks down to.
Some got salt, Sorry, words. Some scholars. Insist that the Greek could have been liking to a bird such as the griffin.
Or, you know, it could be just a palm tree. Others even pull from Hebrew.
He brew. And aromatic phrases and came up with a purplish red bird. Still, no one really has a definitive answer as to what it really meant.
Now, a few short lines thought to be written by the eighth century Greek poet. Hey, is the first true writing fragment we have where a Phoenix is mentioned by name.
It comes from the precepts of Cairo. We're a wise senator named Chyron.
Tales a young Achilles about how the Phoenix will live a life of 972 times longer than man.
A chattering crow lives now generations age man, but a stag slice 4 time a crow and a ravens makes the 3 stages old, while the phoenix out lives 9 ravens.
But we, their rich haven nits. Daughters of Zeus and the 8 heats. Older outlive 10 Phoenixes.
That's a heck of a lot of math involved over these few lines of poetry, but it sounds so lovely that it's only shame that only bits and pieces of the form even exist today.
But what does the Phoenix really look like? According to Greek historian Heratus again, He wrote in the fifth, I'm sorry, he wrote during fifth century BC.
The Egyptians have a secret bird. This is called the Phoenix. I myself have never seen it except in pictures.
And do you, it is a great rarity even in Egypt. Only coming there once in 500 years when the old Phoenix dies.
Its size and appearance. If it likes the pictures are as followed. The plumage is partly red.
Partly golden. While the general make and size are almost exactly that of an eagle. They tell a story of what this bird does.
Which it does not seem to be credible.
That he comes all the way from Arabia. And brings the parent bird. All plastered with myrrh.
To the temple of the sun. And there berries the body. In order to bring him, they say.
He first forms a ball of mur. As big as he finds that he can carry. Then he halows out the ball.
And puts the parent inside. After which he covers over the opening with fresh mur. And the ball is then.
The exact weight. As first. So he brings it to Egypt. Plastered over as I have said.
And deposit it in the temple of the sun. Such as the story they tell. Of the doings of the spur.
Now my question is, if he's supposed to come every 500 years, And this is in the fifth.
Century BC. So you're saying like 500 BC. Does that mean he's only come once before and he's coming a second time?
Yeah. Who knows?
It just doesn't make sense.
Now. You know, it can't be confirmed clearing that the great Phoenix was taken directly from the Egyptian Ben Nu.
The venue has quite a lot of stories that's often contradict with one another and leave it up to interpretation.
Some of the Egyptian stories might actually be influenced by Greek rather than the other way around. So before we go, in, Lee the Phoenix, perhaps we should expound on the Ben New Bird.
According to Egyptian mythos, Benu flew over the surface of chaos at the time of creation.
He leantered a shield screen that broke the silence. His call, deciding what would the world and would not the world contain.
Benew closely resembled a modern day heron, though his feathers were a color of fame.
Flames and depicted on an artist and myth sometimes appear a human head rather than that of a bird.
In fact, Ben Nu eventually came to be the symbol of Ra, the sun god.
It was said that the new renewed himself every day upon the sun race touching him. As such, not only was he associated with Ra, but also Osiris.
The god of death and reincarnation. The story of Ben News birth claimed he was born out of planes on top of the Persian tree.
That's to the top of no blisk. It is the Greek philosopher Herodius who first claimed that Benu lived for about 500 years before setting itself on fire and being reborn from the ashes.
However, often Benew resumes itself. Herodotus insisted the remaining ashes would be placed on the altar.
There they catered to Ra.
Interesting. So it seems like the new. Is pretty much what we modern day think of the Phoenix, you know, rising for the ashes and stuff.
You know, regardless of who inspired who. The Phoenix was often portrayed with a halo.
This emphasize, it emphasize its connection with the sun. Is he heel the dramatist? Or the poet of Tragian.
As he held as he was held by several titles. Did write somewhere around the second or third centuries.
BC. That the Phoenix had an appearance of a rooster. However, the Romans use the likeness of a Numidian crane.
This was on coinage during the time that the good emperor Antonius Pius. Was around and this was between 1 38 and 1 61 AD.
The Phoenix was considered to be overtly a vibrant implementation. Though there never was a clear tell of exactly which colors.
Some say that it was similar to a peacock.
Herodotus, hereditis seems the only one that
You, the only one that many used in their own stories. In that it was red in yellow. The Zekeel, the Tad, the Track Dian.
Claimed that the red was on its legs and that the eyes were striking yellow.
Now, and TS, however, and sent it, Linkantius however insisted that the lakes were covered in yellow gold scales and that the talents.
Were rows colored. Then we have the description of pioneer, tiny the elder. And he says that it was the color of a golden pheasant.
This is very common in the Far East. And he described the Phoenix as It is as large as an eagle.
And has a gleam of gold around its deck. And all the rest is purple. But the tail is blue.
Picked out with rose colored feathers. And the throat picked out with tufts. And feathered crest adorning its head.
Okay, so you know, Roman, poet. He didn't know it, but Claudine wrote a poem on the Phoenix claiming a mysterious fire flashes from its eye and a flames, aora enriches its head.
Crest shines with the sun's own light and shatters the darkness with his calm brilliance, its legs of tirini and purple swifter than those of the zephyrs and its wings a flower like blue dappered with rich gold.
Even size could not be pinned down with with 3 of these ancient historians insisting the Phoenix was similar inside to an eagle.
2 others claimed that it was far larger. Like, Lacennis insisting it was larger than an ostrich.
But has anyone ever seen one? That's the ultimate question. Now, ancient historians, Cornelius Valerius, Claims at Phoenix appeared in 36 AD and Flindy the elder insists that one was found in Egypt and was brought to Rome and exhibited in the city in 47 AD.
Coinciding with the 800 anniversary. Of the founding of Rome. He did, however, issue caution as he believed that the bird on exhibit was an impostor.
As for how long they regenerate it depending on which historians you listen to. Romans said his cycle was only once every 500 years.
While Egyptians believed they lived for about 1,461 years.
Now, given how many stories have been found from the ancient history, that were written in. Alliterative or poetic verse.
Without the author even being known. It is no wonder that one would be found about the Phoenix.
This 677 line of literary alliterative poetry. What's discovered in tenth century Old English.
This was in the extra book and it basically paraphrase La Cantius's work.
Except that it included an allegory that the Phoenix was in reference of the resurrection of Christ.
No, it seemed to be that the Phoenix was the creature that lived a long life. And then emulated.
As it's ancient body to create itself a new one from the ashes. However, the bar himself, William Shakespeare, had his own play.
I'm sorry, had his own take on this. With the play Henry the Apes. Just to quote a piece from that play.
Nor shall this peace sleep with her. But as when the bird of wonder dies, the maiden Phoenix.
Her ashes, you create another air as great in admiration. As herself. So shall she leave her blessings to one.
I'm sorry. So Shashi leave. Per blessedness to one. When heaven shall call from this cloud of darkness.
Whom from the sacred ashes of her honor. She'll star like rise as great in fame.
As she wants and so stand fixed.
Now in other words, the so-called rebirth was rather the way that the birds bore a single chick at the end of his life.
Allowing his bone blood and feathers to form a new body for another bird to rise its as in its place.
That isn't exactly saying that the new chick isn't the same chick with a former live wipe clean, therefore starting over or that is completely new being with the old having made way for the next to rise up when the former takes this long to serve rest.
Either way, the Phoenix is linked to so many cultures. The Hindu have the gargas.
And the The Russians have battered bird. Persian sigma. The Georgians pass good.
The Arabians have. Agna, the Chinese Then hang and the.
Suki.
Zooke.
These are several versions of the 3 legged or also Several versions of the 3 legged crow in Asian cultures.
That holds the inhabitants and represents the sun. Has there been numerous ancient artifacts to these legends to date back as far as 9,000 years old?
One of the most popular myths is seeing a sacred crow being and X, spans and with, from wing tip to wing tip.
Probably 8 foot. I wrote the divine intervention upon human affairs.
It is said in 1 min that originally there were 10 such sacred
Each were golden in color. And they assigned its own son.
Though some stories claim that the crows themselves were the sons. Each day, one crow. And his son would climb into the carriage of Si.
This was Mother to the Sons and Zi. With then carry the pair on their journey across the sky.
While others roost it at a mulberry tree. That was located in the east at the foot of the Valley of the Sun.
As soon as one bird and his son finished their way. The next with board the carriage and a new day would begin.
It seemed that the crows had discovered 2 grasses of immortality. And they love to ascend from their heavenly perch.
And fly down to the earth to feast on the grasses. Zeehi did not approve of this.
So she first covered their eyes to prevent them from seeing the grass. But this didn't stop the birds.
And for folklore says that about 4,000 years ago. The birds all descended together. Well, see, he was just distracted.
And naturally their sons followed. This set the world of fire.
The Selechio Celestial Archer. Fuji or went down to deal with the problem.
First, he tried to talk to the crows. And they refuse to listen.
So then he pretended to shoot arrows at them. And they ignored them. If I had no choice but to shoot them one by one.
Each one's light extinguished. Leaving a sooty black crow. In its place.
Until only one golden crow was left.
Now it is his duty to ride daily with Zi. In her carriage. And he has no time off for sneaking away to eat the forbidden grass.
Now crows are a sacred and numerous mythos. With the numerous Native American tribes selling the fate.
Of the Red Rainbow Crow. This crow was beloved by everyone for a sprightest and beautiful, plumage and it's, It's all 3 voice.
The story goes, however, that one day snow came and the people were freezing, unable to find the warmth.
The rainbow crow was so worried about them. That he searched for a way to help and was told that he needed to take a stick and fly it to the sun.
That way, she could, he or she could ask the son to light the thick. So she could bring back the fire to the suffering people.
The son took pity on her and lit the stick. She carried it back in the beak. She knew the longer her journey took that her people would suffer.
So she urged her tired to wings faster and faster. The smoke from the burning stick flying past her body coated her throat.
But she did that falter. The people who are so happy to have fire and enjoyed the world weren't again that they began celebrating.
And the crow tried to join in. But was started by the harsh cough. That came from her throat rather than the beautiful song she had possessed.
She looked down and found that she herself Her feathers were singed and that the smoke had dulled her colors.
Embarrassment she went to hide herself away but she was unable to hide from the creator. Who recently wiped away the certain ashes.
To reveal black feathers that somehow possessed the sheen of original plume when held up to the sun.
Or voice. No longer a cough. But still a loud call. But the people do that mind.
Crow had brought their morph and their dying population. And they had revered and sacred, sacrificed for her ever since.
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So this It the first half of our episode of Sacred Birds. Richard. What, what is your favorite sacred bird out of all the ones that we discussed today?
I guess it would probably be. It's a tie between the Phoenix and the Crow.
Interesting. For me.
And what? What was yours?
I would have to say that you know being in being interested in fascinated in the Native American culture and the possibility of having, you know.
Indigenous blood running through my veins. I've always been interested and fascinated in the Thunderbird.
Like I said, I always visualize it just being a proud. Huge eagle.
Watching over the tribes. And so that would have to be my favorite.
Do you think that these birds actually existed or do you think that these were just legends and tell that we're told to either amuse people or teach them a lesson?
I think it's a little bit of both. I mean, we've already, stated the fact that, thought would had the head of an abyss, so.
Some guy, you know. It's like, you know, that kind of reminds me of the dude over there who's teaching us how to write.
He may have had a hook nose and like yeah I'm gonna draw him as a given the head of an abyss you know because we've had Several.
People being described as having a hawk nose or a bird like nose that sort of thing. So Who knows?
That's a very interesting theory and it does make quite sense. And I've always, you know, pictured that these drawings and these glyphs, whether it be you know, K paintings or whatever that they are simply.
The imagination of the people. So like you said, this person looked like, you know, it had a bird nose.
So they're like, I'm gonna draw them as a bird. That's using their imagination and their creativity.
But this is a fascinating topic and I look forward to. Continuing it next week.
But for our listeners. Let us know in the comments what your favorite type of bird is.
As far as, you know, sacred birds. And you know, we can also continue this discussion in our Facebook group, Stptic, we'd love to have you join us.
Yes. And next week, we're actually gonna learn about my favorite. Sacred bird. I mean for this week we of course you know it had to be a tie between the Phoenix and the crow but You get to find out what I've, my favorite sacred bird is going to be.
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