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Skeptic Psychic: Hello.

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Skeptic Psychic: and welcome once again to the skeptic side kick where we interestingly discuss topics and really get to know one another. How you doing to night, everybody.

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Skeptic Psychic: Abdul, and 5. I'm sorry. I sound like a complete, utter idiot. But what do you know tonight, Mr. Rogers.

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Skeptic Psychic: would you be my neighbor with me tonight is, of course, my my Co. Host and

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Skeptic Psychic: favorite sibling Kimber Rodriguez.

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Skeptic Psychic: Hey! How are you doing? Fine! I would normally go on such a grand old scale. But if you know. kind of an old hat, but you know you're my favorite sibling. Yes, I know.

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Skeptic Psychic: plus. There's only so many compliments you can give a person.

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Kim Rodriguez: Yes. So what's that? Repeating yourself?

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Kim Rodriguez: So what's new with you?

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Skeptic Psychic: Just working, working, working sleep and sleep and sleep and working work and sleep and sleep and sleeping sound like me. Yeah. But tonight we get to talk about one of my favorite topics.

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Kim Rodriguez: Yes,

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Kim Rodriguez: Before we get into the topic.

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Kim Rodriguez: There was a couple of things that I wanted to discuss. First of all, I had a an instance the other night. That was very interesting. I came in here to my dining area, where I've been recording lately, and turned on the light, and I saw like

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Kim Rodriguez: I don't know. I saw this out of the I don't know if it was my mind playing tricks on me, or or what. But when I turned on the light. I was looking down, and I thought I saw

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Kim Rodriguez: kind of like that smoke that I was telling you about the other day. We're close to the floor, and I almost got the feeling like it was a cat.

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Skeptic Psychic: the cat coming in to say Hello! The

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Kim Rodriguez: The way that it moved was kind of like, you know, the way a cat moves when they're like they rub up against you, and then they kind of curve their body to turn and look at you. That's the way it kind of was. So I just found that very interesting

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Kim Rodriguez: and wanted to share that

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Kim Rodriguez:  Also, I know there was something else I wanted to discuss tonight. Let me see if I can find it again.

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Kim Rodriguez: Talk amongst yourself, tell us about you and what's new with you while I look this up.

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Skeptic Psychic: Well, I've been let's see, I just been working I actually been doing a lot of research on this topic of the hollow earth. Do you know.

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Skeptic Psychic: hopefully, you know, I got some interesting people that will comment like share it. Even join our Facebook group

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which if you're on an apple podcast or any other

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Skeptic Psychic: Youtube, that sort of thing, be sure to rate love us and give us a, some constructive criticism. And on apple podcasts we do require 5 stars.

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Skeptic Psychic: That's 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 5 stars. and for all of you out there. That really would like to make a comment or read your comment on the air. Don't matter if it's

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if you're telling us that we suck. But then, of course, we would like you to be honest, straightforward, and nice about it.

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Skeptic Psychic: So again

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Skeptic Psychic: live stars.

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Kim Rodriguez: Yes, now I remember what I wanted to discuss ready to be an ecommerce pioneer. Sorry about that.

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Kim Rodriguez: What I wanted to discuss.

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Skeptic Psychic: What did you like to know? Yes, I would.

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Kim Rodriguez: It was Youtube, I actually clicked on a video. I did not mean to but what I wanted to discuss was

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Kim Rodriguez: in the group that I'm in for one of our friendly pat, podcast that we follow the ghostly podcast in their group goes to society. There was a post that was made from a Youtube video where Chris Angel debunks all mind readers and psychics saying that all of them are false.

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Kim Rodriguez: So I just kinda wanted to see your thoughts on that. You know

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what you think of Criss Angel and his new

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Kim Rodriguez: claim that everyone is fake.

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Skeptic Psychic: Well, Chris, angels are fake. No, seriously, he's a very good magician, but because I do follow magicians. I've gone back in every trick

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Skeptic Psychic: that any great magician does can be brought broken down to the simple tricks that they teach you in the those little cheap.

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Skeptic Psychic: Magicians, kits. So yeah, I even know how he does his dangerous stunts.

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Skeptic Psychic: Yes, basically, from what I'm getting. I haven't watched the whole video yet. But, my! And if you've ever seen the remake of the fright Night movie.

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David Tennant's character is a parody of Chris Angel.

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Kim Rodriguez: Yes, I love his character in that movie. but you know

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Kim Rodriguez: the way I see he. I haven't watched the whole video yet, but I'm pretty sure he's probably trying to say that because he knows these tricks of magic that he could.

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Kim Rodriguez: He can point out the tricks that these people use to do their their readings.

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Kim Rodriguez: and

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Kim Rodriguez: I'm not gonna say that all psychics are true, because I knew I know there are some cheryl teams out there, but growing up

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Kim Rodriguez: with our mother

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Kim Rodriguez: growing up with you, I can definitely say that they're not all face. I'll even say that my favorite illusionist slash escape artists last magicians.

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Skeptic Psychic: Penjillet and Teller

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Skeptic Psychic: are fakes as well. They even admit themselves. We're fakes. Yes, we are magicians. Yes, magicians are fake.

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Kim Rodriguez: But that doesn't mean that all psychics are fake. I know some amazing psychics. I grew up with my mother and with you, and I saw what you both could do.

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Kim Rodriguez: and that was not a a trick by no means, I mean.

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Kim Rodriguez: but I would love to know what other people think if people watching or listening think that you know all psychics are faith. Let us know in the comments below. Or you can join our Facebook group. As you mentioned earlier, and you can give us your comments there, I'll post something about it.

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Kim Rodriguez: And yeah, let's go ahead and get into tonight's topic then.

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Skeptic Psychic: But again, tonight's topic is one of my favorite theories and discussions. Basically, we're going to be talking about the hollow earth. Now, most scientists believe that the earth has 3 layers, the crust, the mantle, and the core nothing else.

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Skeptic Psychic: But what if I told you that there are certain experts

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Skeptic Psychic: that believe that there is a world inside of our world.

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Skeptic Psychic: and

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Skeptic Psychic: sorry

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Skeptic Psychic: With its own sun and body of water. What if I told you

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Skeptic Psychic: there are interests to this location, both in the North Pole, the South Pole.

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Skeptic Psychic: as well as parts of Asia, North and South America. What would you say to that, my friend.

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Skeptic Psychic: welcome to the theory

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Skeptic Psychic: of the hollow earth!

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Kim Rodriguez: Now I know that there are the caverns in the caves that run, you know, below us

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Kim Rodriguez: the hollow earth goes into what is beneath those caverns in those caves, or if it includes those caverns in the caves.

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Kim Rodriguez: But I know like there's like here in the United States. All the caverns and caves are theoretically connected to one another. Beneath our beneath the ground beneath our feet.

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Skeptic Psychic: Does this Hello, earth go deeper? In fact, the caves and caverns are actually rumored to be entrances to this hollow earth.

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Kim Rodriguez: Tell me more

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Skeptic Psychic: alright. Well, the in ancient times many cultures and tribes believed in this underworld. How?

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Skeptic Psychic: And now goes back to to the Babylonians

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Skeptic Psychic: and and the early Mesopotamian practices. The Greeks, of course, had the the land of Hades in Hindu mythology. The underworld is referred to as

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Skeptic Psychic: in the Beng Bengali version of the Hindu epic, Ramayaya

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Skeptic Psychic: Rama. Yah! That it's been depicted how

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Skeptic Psychic: Rama and Lakhava

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Skeptic Psychic: were taken by Shama, la Kashama were taken by the reign, the King of Underworld.

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Skeptic Psychic: and hitherto brother of the demon

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Skeptic Psychic: King Ravenia. Yeah, they were.

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Skeptic Psychic: they were rescued by Hellament.

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Kim Rodriguez: Yes, I'm sorry. I know your your part. There is a little hard to read with the background. I apologize. It's my job to make sure that this is legible for him, and I felt this week. So so please my apologies.

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Skeptic Psychic: Yes.

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Kim Rodriguez: now the Angi Naga tribes of India claim that their ancestors emerged in ancient times from a subterranean land that was inside the earth.

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Kim Rodriguez: The Tano from Cuba believed that their ancestors emerged at ancient times from 2 caves in a mountain underground.

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Kim Rodriguez: Then we have the Celts of ancient Ireland.

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Kim Rodriguez: Now is it cells or Celts. Hmm tomato.

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Kim Rodriguez: they believed that there were caves that led the underground world of a supernatural race that was known as Tuatha de Nan.

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Skeptic Psychic: Yep.

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Kim Rodriguez: This was also known as the tribe of the goddess.

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Kim Rodriguez: I mean. Had even Alexander the Great journeyed to the underworld in hopes of conquering it.

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Kim Rodriguez: you know. But taking all that information as being myths. We wonder who actually did propose this theory, that there really is a hollow earth.

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Kim Rodriguez: This came from Sir Edmund Haley.

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Kim Rodriguez: also the same man who discovered the Haley's comet.

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Kim Rodriguez: And he came up with this theory way back in 1960. I'm sorry. 1692, just calculus

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Kim Rodriguez: His notion was supposed to be disproven by 2 men. However. first, there was Pierre Bonchere.

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Kim Rodriguez: a French mathematician, in 17.

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Kim Rodriguez: an English mathematician and surveyor, who, in 1,774, determined that the mean density of the earth made this impossible.

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Skeptic Psychic: Right? Could you pause it for a second? I've gotta check on the pasta. Sure. Go ahead

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Skeptic Psychic: now. The mantle was taken up again by American by the name of Captain John Cleaves Smyth, Jr. Now interesting about him.

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Skeptic Psychic: he wasn't his father. He was named after his Uncle

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Skeptic Psychic: John cleaves, Sims, Jr. Because the the uncle had no other kids.

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Skeptic Psychic: which he, he believed could be access for explanation, and colonization


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Skeptic Psychic: Sims group gained attention in the early nineteenth century for his lectures and writings prompting the theory of a hollow earth.

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Skeptic Psychic: He proposed that the earth consisted of several contracentic spheres.

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Skeptic Psychic: with habitable environments contained within. Sims claimed that they were entrances to the north and South pole, throughout of which one could enter this this inner world

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Kim Rodriguez: Yes. his ideas attracted both supporters and skeptics. and since sought funding for an expedition to explore the polar regions. To prove his theory.

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Kim Rodriguez: however, he did face difficulties.

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Kim Rodriguez: securing financial backing and encountering criticism from the scientific community

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Kim Rodriguez: which largely dismissed the idea as unfounded and solely speculation.

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Skeptic Psychic: which I mean. Come on, if if

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Kim Rodriguez: think about it. Okay, I speculate. This is this, I want to prove this. Is this, so I need to go there. I mean. how was he going to prove it without exploring it and examining it?

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Kim Rodriguez: be like somebody just didn't want to take the time to look at.

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Kim Rodriguez: So, despite the lack of scientific support, he continued to advocate for his theory until his death in 1829.

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Kim Rodriguez: Now why he, while he did not achieve his legacy during his lifetime.

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Kim Rodriguez: it did live on in the form of continued interest in this theory of the hollow earth. And this was, you know.

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Kim Rodriguez: among French groups and enthusiasts, or, as some people out there like to say, conspiracy. There are risks.

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Skeptic Psychic: yes, and

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Kim Rodriguez: his name is often associated with the early population of the Hollow Earth concept. although he was not the first to propose, propose such a theory.

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Skeptic Psychic: of hidden worlds beneath the earth's surface. Now also to reiterate the fact of his tombstone, where he is buried. He actually has a 3D map of what the Hollywood would have looked like

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Kim Rodriguez: interesting. I'll see if I can find something like that, and you sit in our group for for people to to check out and see that

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Skeptic Psychic: now, my senior proposed a theory of suggesting that

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Skeptic Psychic: the earth is hollow and contains an interior space is suitable for habitation. Some keen points of this theory include

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Skeptic Psychic: cannonic spheres.

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Skeptic Psychic: Smice believed that the earth was composed of multiple characters, spheres

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Skeptic Psychic: with habibal regions, and contained within

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Skeptic Psychic: these spheres were thought to be separated by empty spaces or voids.

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Skeptic Psychic: Polar openings.

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Skeptic Psychic: Sam also argued that there were large openings in the North and South Poles

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Skeptic Psychic: leading us into the interior of the hollow earth.

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Skeptic Psychic: he suggested. There are openings could be accessed for exploration and colonization.

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Skeptic Psychic: The interior environment.

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Skeptic Psychic: Now, according to S. Smith, the interior of the earth was not only hollow, but also contained a oh, its own atmosphere, oceans and environmentals.

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Skeptic Psychic: It could support life potentially and including the undiscovered civilizations.

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Skeptic Psychic: Scientific inquiry on that Sims advocated for the the scientific exploration of the polls, polar regions, and confirming his theory, he sought support and funding for expeditions to investigate.

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The openings, however, at the post explored the support theory of the Earth interior

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now overall. His hit theory of a hollow earth was based on the idea of a vast, unexplored world hidden beneath the earth's surface.

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Kim Rodriguez: Now we get on to James Norman Reynolds, who was also referred to as Jay in Reynolds. He was an American journalist and explorer who lived during the nineteenth century.

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Kim Rodriguez: who's best known

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Kim Rodriguez: with his involvement. I'm sorry he is best known for his involvement in the expiration of the polar regions

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Kim Rodriguez: and his association, and with the concept of the hollow earth.

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Kim Rodriguez: He did gain prominence during. I'm sorry he didn't gain prominence through his writings

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Kim Rodriguez: Particularly with the United States Exploring expedition, which was between 1838 and 1842.

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Kim Rodriguez: This was also known as the Wilkes Expedition, because it was led by Charles Wakes.

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Kim Rodriguez: Charles Wilkes, not mix

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Kim Rodriguez: rendezvous served as a correspondent for the New York press during this expedition.

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Kim Rodriguez: one of Riddle's significant contributions to exploration was his permission of the Hollow Earth theory. He collaborated with John Clinton Simmons, Jr. Who had proposed the idea of a hollow earth with the openings at the polls.

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Kim Rodriguez: Riddles did help popularize, popularize Sims theories with his writings. and he included articles and a series of letters that were published to the New York newspaper

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Kim Rodriguez: known at the time as the New York Mirror.

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Skeptic Psychic: Now riddles advocacy for the Hollow Earth theory was contributed with his engaging writing style. and did this the association with the Wilkes expedition

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Skeptic Psychic: contributed for their widespread interest in the concept. During the nineteenth century, however, like smites, Reynolds was faced with skepticism from the scientific community which largely regarded the hollow Earth theory as an unfounded speculation.

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Skeptic Psychic: while Renard is best known for his promotion of the hollow earth.

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Skeptic Psychic: He also, made significant contributions to journalism and expiration through his repairing and writings on various expeditions and adventures.

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Skeptic Psychic: Now.

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Skeptic Psychic: in 1864,

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Skeptic Psychic: one of my favorite top. 10 writers, I would say he's number 3 or 4. Joel's

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Skeptic Psychic: Of course it is one of my favorite books

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Skeptic Psychic: in this book. It follows the adventures of Professor Otto Ude Bark and his nephew Axel and their guide. Harris

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Kim Rodriguez: guns.

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Skeptic Psychic: Hans Vatica as they embark upon a daring expedition for exploring in the depths of the earth.

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Skeptic Psychic: The story begins when Professor Leiden Brock discovers an ancient manuscript

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Skeptic Psychic: that contains coded instructions on how to reach the center of the earth.

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Skeptic Psychic: With Axel's help Professor decipers the messages and determines that the earth must begin, and it's Iceland.

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Skeptic Psychic: The trail set out for the expedition, travelling to Iceland and descending to the depth of a volcano called.

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she ever can't get confronted with.

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Skeptic Psychic: We're not even gonna try just I'm sorry bastardizing Icelandic language there.

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Skeptic Psychic: but as the journey deepens into the earth they encounter various abstracts and obstacles, as well as the marbles, including the underground seas, prehistoric creatures, and the strange geological formations.

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Kim Rodriguez: Let us know in the comments or in our group's skeptic psychic on Facebook. What do you think, Rick? Do you believe in a hollow earth?

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Kim Rodriguez: as also if you're able to leave a review. We do ask for reviews, we do read them on air, if we ever get them. You're still waiting for them. Please review us. We need reviews.

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Kim Rodriguez: Yes, and next week we will take a

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Kim Rodriguez: yeah, like they. Alex, I'll talk about later. And on that episode, why, it's so long. But I don't want to give too much away.

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Kim Rodriguez: But anything else you wanna share before we end tonight's episode.

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Skeptic Psychic: Which article are we going to be putting up there this one? The hollow art.

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Kim Rodriguez: And with that we bid you ado. How do you

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Kim Rodriguez: have a wonderful evening and sweet dreams, everybody.

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Skeptic Psychic: and unpleasant nightmares?

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Skeptic Psychic: Good night, wrap.