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Skeptic Psychic: Deborah Rodriguez.
Kim Rodriguez: Hey? How's it going.
Skeptic Psychic: Right!
Kim Rodriguez: Did you get to see the eclipse yesterday?
Skeptic Psychic: Yes, I did.
Kim Rodriguez: A.
Skeptic Psychic: Says avid.
Kim Rodriguez: I slept through it.
Kim Rodriguez: I ended up having. I was like exhausted all day, so I took a nap.
Kim Rodriguez: and
Kim Rodriguez: from what I saw it was really cloudy out, but it kind of had a cool effect with, you know what you could see behind the clouds.
Kim Rodriguez: So that was very interesting.
Kim Rodriguez: And I've seen a lot of pictures of it online.
Kim Rodriguez: Yeah. So I was talking with my coaches, she said, even looking cause you know how you're not supposed to look at the sun directly, or don't, you'll go blind.
Skeptic Psychic: Yep.
Kim Rodriguez: She. She was telling me that just looking at the photos her eyes were beginning to hurt, so I don't know if it was some kind of mental thing or what? But yeah.
Skeptic Psychic: Right.
Kim Rodriguez: Was
Kim Rodriguez: quite a lot of interesting photos out there.
Kim Rodriguez: So what's new with you this week?
Skeptic Psychic: Well, like, I said. I watch the the eclipse
Skeptic Psychic: while listening to total eclipse of the heart.
Kim Rodriguez: There it is!
Skeptic Psychic: Bits. Yes.
Kim Rodriguez: you know that song was written for a vampire musical that was never completed.
Skeptic Psychic: Do you know it was written for by the same guy who wrote all the music for meat loaf.
Kim Rodriguez: Interesting.
Kim Rodriguez: Yeah, if you've ever seen the video of totally clips of the heart.
Kim Rodriguez: After finding out that it was written for a vampire musical, singing a song, for you know someone in love with a vampire.
Kim Rodriguez: The video makes a lot more sense.
Kim Rodriguez: I mean, before I knew that, I just thought, Oh, my gosh, this is a really trippy artsy
Kim Rodriguez: video. But yeah.
Kim Rodriguez: it really.
Skeptic Psychic: Turn around, bright eyes.
Kim Rodriguez: Yes, very interesting. But then, if you've seen her other video for holding out for a hero, it's also kind of on that artsy scale.
Kim Rodriguez: Anyway, tonight.
Skeptic Psychic: And another another song, written by the same guy who does meet loves music.
Kim Rodriguez: Really.
Skeptic Psychic: Yeah.
Kim Rodriguez: I love meat loves music. He was
Kim Rodriguez: truly. An artist.
Skeptic Psychic: Yes.
Kim Rodriguez: Well. Some of his songs were
Kim Rodriguez: some of them like Paradise, for the dashboard lights.
Skeptic Psychic: Eee.
Kim Rodriguez: I mean, I mean, at least you get the imagery behind it. But so.
Skeptic Psychic: But we got off topic.
Kim Rodriguez: Yes, we're going to be.
Skeptic Psychic: Talking about. So a very very exciting Key West celebrity.
Kim Rodriguez: Yes, one that I've been intrigued by for quite a while. I would love to take a trip to Key West to check out. We.
Skeptic Psychic: So I just want I just want to go to Key West. Because you know.
Skeptic Psychic: home of the Keith.
Kim Rodriguez: Oh, I thought it was the key home of the key line pie.
Skeptic Psychic: That, too. But I'm reading
Skeptic Psychic: I mean
Skeptic Psychic: again off topic. Let's talk about this wonderful celebrity that's you. You're such a big fan of.
Kim Rodriguez: Yes, we are talking tonight about Robert, the doll
Kim Rodriguez: and it's quite an interesting story. If you haven't heard it, we invite you to sit back and and tune in and listen. If you have heard it, maybe you'll catch something that you weren't aware of about him. But I digress. Why don't you begin?
Skeptic Psychic: Robert the Dull.
Skeptic Psychic: It's a famous and supposedly haunted doll that be become
Skeptic Psychic: a part of Key West
Skeptic Psychic: and also Florida's local folklore.
Skeptic Psychic: The doll originally belonged to Robert Eugene Otto, an otter
Skeptic Psychic: known for his eccentric behavior.
Skeptic Psychic: The doll, which is said to be cursed, was reportedly given to Robert
Skeptic Psychic: auto
Skeptic Psychic: in 1,906 by a servant who was supposedly practicing black magic and voodoo.
Kim Rodriguez: Voodoo that voodoo that you do so.
Skeptic Psychic: Now.
Skeptic Psychic: right now we are going to start calling him Eugene
Skeptic Psychic: Otto.
Skeptic Psychic: also known as Gene to his friends.
Skeptic Psychic: because he was born in a wealthy family in Key West. His childhood was spent in the affluent environment of his family's Victorian style home.
Skeptic Psychic: which would later be known as the artist house from a young age Eugene
Skeptic Psychic: displayed a keen interest in the arts, showing a talent in painting and creativity.
Kim Rodriguez: Yes, historically, a lot sorry words hard. His early life was marked by a privileged upbringing.
Kim Rodriguez: He attended private schools, and he lived in a community where his family was well respected.
Kim Rodriguez: Now, despite his social standings, he was known to have a vivid imagination.
Kim Rodriguez: He had an interest in the unusual.
Kim Rodriguez: and these are traits that would, you know, define his personality and his career later in years
Kim Rodriguez: it is notable that he was nurtured in an environment and encouraged
Kim Rodriguez: his artistic, just sorry.
Kim Rodriguez: his artistic expression.
Kim Rodriguez: Key West has a vibrant and culture scene.
Kim Rodriguez: and it is picturesque with landscapes that provided a rich backdrop
Kim Rodriguez: for his developing artists sensibilities.
Kim Rodriguez: As a child Eugene
Kim Rodriguez: was often seen with a sketchbook in hand
Kim Rodriguez: he drew scenes from his surroundings.
Kim Rodriguez: and he also created portraits of people in his life.
Kim Rodriguez: recognizing his artistic
Kim Rodriguez: potential his family did create. I'm sorry his family did support his creative pursuits from a young age.
Kim Rodriguez: This did nurture
Kim Rodriguez: him. This did nurture him, allowing him to experiment with different forms of art, including painting, sculptures, and even writing.
Kim Rodriguez: His early experiences with art, were not just limited to the traditional canvas, as he was known to use also the walls of his home.
Kim Rodriguez: much to his family's dismay.
Skeptic Psychic: Much to his dismay, hey?
Skeptic Psychic: Because the auto family social standing in Kuy West myth that Eugene group among the influential and currently aware individuals.
Skeptic Psychic: The exposure to the diverse artistic, and social
Skeptic Psychic: circles undoubtedly influence his artistic style and interest.
Skeptic Psychic: His family, historical home became a gathering place for local artists, writers and intellectuals.
Skeptic Psychic: providing Eugene with an early exposure to the broader artistic community.
Skeptic Psychic: Now
Skeptic Psychic: the story of how Eugene Otto received Robert the doll is seeped in legend, and varies depending on the source.
Skeptic Psychic: The most popular version of the story suggests that Robert was given to Eugene in 1904, by Bahram, servant
Skeptic Psychic: working for his family.
Skeptic Psychic: This said to have been cursed.
Skeptic Psychic: Buy the doll with voodoo or black magic before giving it to sweet, innocent young Eugene.
Kim Rodriguez: Yes, according to folklore, the servant was skilled in black magic.
Kim Rodriguez: She used these skills to imbue the doll with a malevolent life of its own.
Kim Rodriguez: This is supposedly done as an act of revenge for mistreatment by the auto family.
Kim Rodriguez: The doll was named Robert, which was also Eugene's given name.
Kim Rodriguez: but he went by Jean and the doll took the name Robert.
Kim Rodriguez: The Rate. The relationship between Eugene and the doll quickly became a topic of conversation.
Kim Rodriguez: This was among those who knew the family.
Kim Rodriguez: as Eugene would normally speak to the dollar.
Kim Rodriguez: and it was said that the doll would respond.
Kim Rodriguez: His voice, heard by others through closed doors.
Kim Rodriguez: The family also reported strange occurrences.
Kim Rodriguez: like the doll moving
Kim Rodriguez: from one place to another.
Kim Rodriguez: or unsettling expressions appearing on its face.
Kim Rodriguez: The stories have contributed to mystique and legend of Robert the Doll.
Kim Rodriguez: making it a fascinating legend
Kim Rodriguez: and a subject of paranormal interest.
Kim Rodriguez: also a significant part of the Key West Local war.
Skeptic Psychic: Now area occurrences associated with Robert
Skeptic Psychic: during Eugene Otto's childhood
Skeptic Psychic: have contributed to the legendary status. People often reported hearing the dog giggle, and saw the expression change. Witnesses also claimed that Robert
Skeptic Psychic: Position
Skeptic Psychic: would shift inexplicitly when no one was in the room, suggesting
Skeptic Psychic: he could have moved on his own.
Skeptic Psychic: There are also accounts of Eugene blaming Robert for various mischief and accidents
Skeptic Psychic: kind of like it was this little
Skeptic Psychic: imaginary friend. But if something was broken or disturbed, Eugene would say, Robert did it.
Skeptic Psychic: This phrase became a recurring explanation for any household mishap. Further, and twinning the doll in a web of mystique and Blaine
Kim Rodriguez: Keep some.
Skeptic Psychic: Self out of trouble. Robert did it.
Kim Rodriguez: Sure he did.
Kim Rodriguez: Now neighbors and friends also recounted stories of seeing Robert peering from different windows in the auto house when the family was away.
Kim Rodriguez: This led to rumors that the doll was indeed alive
Kim Rodriguez: and moving around the house.
Kim Rodriguez: These unsettling events
Kim Rodriguez: that surrounded Robert, the doll helped cement its reputation as a haunted object
Kim Rodriguez: with these tails continuing to be cart
Kim Rodriguez: of the lore surrounding Robert and the auto family.
Kim Rodriguez: Couldn't he have just taken the doll and set it there what before they left, like, maybe he was peering out the window with the doll and his mom's like, come on, Eugene, we gotta go. So he just left Robert there, and they left.
Kim Rodriguez: I mean, nobody actually saw Robert
Kim Rodriguez: moving the curtains and looking out himself. They just saw him there, so it's very possible he could have just been left there.
Skeptic Psychic: Yep.
Kim Rodriguez: Now, later in this life Eugene did Mary and Lauer. This was in the 19 thirties.
Kim Rodriguez: Ann was a concert pianist.
Kim Rodriguez: and she also came from a well-to-do family, but from Boston
Kim Rodriguez: their marriage brought her into his autistic and somewhat eccentric world.
Skeptic Psychic: Yeah, there's a little detailed information regarding that their private life, including whether they had any children.
Skeptic Psychic: the available historical records and accounts of the life together did not mention any offspring.
Skeptic Psychic: Their marriage is often discussed in the context of Eugene's particular relationship with Robert.
Skeptic Psychic: which was significant aspect of that life together, and reportedly caused tension in their relationship.
Skeptic Psychic: His relationship with his wife Ann
Skeptic Psychic: and his doll Robert created a unique and complex dynamic in the household.
Skeptic Psychic: This triangular relationship was marked by a blend of artistic temperaments.
Skeptic Psychic: high society expectations.
Skeptic Psychic: and the unsetting influences
Skeptic Psychic: of Robert.
Kim Rodriguez: Yes, Eugene's devotion to Robert often did clash with Anne's sensibilities.
Kim Rodriguez: She perceived the doll as being eerie and disruptive
Kim Rodriguez: within their home.
Kim Rodriguez: And not just a remnant of Gene's childhood.
Kim Rodriguez: This led to a peculiar domestic situation, where Anne sought to diminish Rubber's presence.
Kim Rodriguez: She advocated that Robert be kept in the attic.
Kim Rodriguez: while Eugene insisted that the doll's active inclusion should be going on and continuing in their lives.
Kim Rodriguez: The dynamic, the dynamic in their relationship, was not just about the physical presence of Robert, but also a psychological impact
Kim Rodriguez: that it had on the relationship.
Kim Rodriguez: Eugene's interactions with the doll, such as treating it as a living entity
Kim Rodriguez: that was capable of making decisions and having events
Kim Rodriguez: added layers of complexity to their marital life.
Kim Rodriguez: This included the atmosphere in their home and shaped their interactions with one another.
Skeptic Psychic: Now in this relationship Eugene's allegiance often
Skeptic Psychic: was divided between Anne and Robert, with the doll embodying a constant if silent, participant in their life together.
Skeptic Psychic: The unusual living arrangements and the tensions it created provide a glimpse into the unconventional nature of Eugene's adult life, and it's a during bond with his doll, named Robert.
Skeptic Psychic: In later years Eugene's relationship with Robert remained as strong and peculiar as ever.
Skeptic Psychic: Even as an older man Eugene maintained a close and personal bond with Robert treating the doll not just as a cherished childhood toy, but a lifelong companion.
Skeptic Psychic: This bond is reflected on how Eugene continued to involve Robert in daily life and artistic process, often placing the doll in a
Skeptic Psychic: prominence where he could interact what with it, while he painted and worked in his studio.
Kim Rodriguez: Yes, Eugene's attachment to Robert was such that the doll was almost a constant presence in his life.
Kim Rodriguez: This was to the extent
Kim Rodriguez: sorry I keep getting Pop ups, and they're distracting me. But this is to the extent
Kim Rodriguez: that it influenced his social interactions.
Kim Rodriguez: And this also affected the way he was perceived in his own community.
Kim Rodriguez: Everything okay. Over there.
Skeptic Psychic: Pause, real quick.
Kim Rodriguez: Okay.
Kim Rodriguez: Locals and visitors alike were aware of using Eugene's eccentric behavior
Kim Rodriguez: and stories of his peculiar relationship with Robert.
Kim Rodriguez: continued to circulate throughout Key West, and this added folklore to the surrounding of the doll.
Kim Rodriguez: Now, despite the passing of time.
Kim Rodriguez: Eugene's affections and attention towards the doll did not waver.
Kim Rodriguez: he would often attribute current occurrences
Kim Rodriguez: to the house. I'm sorry occurrences around the house to the doll's actions, maintaining the narrative of Robert's supernatural influence.
Kim Rodriguez: that, you know, kind of like he did in his own youth, he would continue to say that. Oh, well, I didn't do that, Robert did that.
Kim Rodriguez: So
Kim Rodriguez: this, you know, relationship between Robert and Eugene
Kim Rodriguez: suggested a deep psychological connection that persisted throughout his entire life.
Kim Rodriguez: And this made Robert an integral part of his identity and his legacy.
Skeptic Psychic: Now, as Eugene grew older, the mystique of Robert.
Skeptic Psychic: in the eyes of the public also grew with a doll becoming increasingly intertwined with
Skeptic Psychic: Eugene's persona entails of a haunted auto home.
Skeptic Psychic: This enduring bond between man and doll contributed to captivate the imagination of those who heard their story
Skeptic Psychic: further. See me. I think the legacy of Robert Didal is a difficult place in in the life of Eugene.
Skeptic Psychic: Eugene died in 1974,
Skeptic Psychic: sorry to say.
Skeptic Psychic: after his death the fate of Robert became a new chapter in its sorted extension.
Skeptic Psychic: Anna Eugene's wife reportedly moved Robert to the attic
Skeptic Psychic: before she sold the artist's house and left Key West.
Skeptic Psychic: She left after he he died.
Skeptic Psychic: The doll remained there until it was discovered by the new homeowners.
Kim Rodriguez: Nothing scarier than finding a haunted doll in the attic of a new home. You just purchased.
Skeptic Psychic: Yes.
Skeptic Psychic: discuss again, no bill.
Kim Rodriguez: Now the new owners did report strange occurrences similar to those that the auto family had previously reported.
Kim Rodriguez: This contributed to Robert's growing legend as being a haunted doll.
Kim Rodriguez: Eventually Robert, the doll, was donated to the East Martello Museum in Key West, where he has since been on display, so I guess they were like, you know, this doll's too much.
Kim Rodriguez: We gotta get rid of it. Let's just go ahead and donate it. Let it be somebody else's problem.
Skeptic Psychic: Yeah. Oh, this is Robert Eugene Otto's doll.
Skeptic Psychic: He was a significant person. Here, let's give it to the museum.
Kim Rodriguez: At the Museum. Robert did become a popular attraction, and drew this, and draws visitors from around the world who aren't, who are intrigued by his eerie backstory and also add legend, supernatural abilities.
Kim Rodriguez: Visitors do often face difficulties with their cameras and electronic devices. Near Robert
Kim Rodriguez: there are frequent reports of cameras ceasing to function or experiencing glitches when trying to capture images of the doll.
Kim Rodriguez: Some visitors find that their devices only malfunction in Robert's presence
Kim Rodriguez: with photographers coming out. I'm sorry photographs, not the photographers, but there are photographs coming out blurred.
Kim Rodriguez: or in some cases not being captured at all.
Skeptic Psychic: Now, despite being in a in close get glass case, Robert is said to exhibit it. Unexplained movements, museum guests and staffs had noticed instances where the doll appears to change positions, move its head.
Skeptic Psychic: or facial expressions. Some even claim to hear the witness
Skeptic Psychic: Robert
Skeptic Psychic: tapping on the glass, as in trying to communicate or draw attention.
Skeptic Psychic: A common experience shared by those who visit Robert is a sense of unease or sudden shift in the emotional state.
Skeptic Psychic: Reports of feeling watched or encountering cold spots near the door are frequent.
Skeptic Psychic: Visitors are often described as heavy, our charged atmosphere around Robert.
Skeptic Psychic: contributing to the feeling of a haunted presence.
Skeptic Psychic: The museum receives numerous letters addressed to Robert.
Skeptic Psychic: varying from apologies for disrespectfulness or request for the doll to undo perceived curses or bad luck.
Skeptic Psychic: Many visitors believe that disrespecting Robert, or taking his photograph without
Skeptic Psychic: asking his permission, can lead to negative consequences.
Skeptic Psychic: There is a widespread relief that Robert can curse individuals who do not show him the proper respect
Skeptic Psychic: leading to a series of misfortunes.
Skeptic Psychic: The superstition has led to the practice of asking Robert permission before taking any photographs, a ritual that many adhere to, or
Skeptic Psychic: in order to avoid his alleged rap.
Kim Rodriguez: Have a question.
Kim Rodriguez: How can they know if the permission is granted.
Skeptic Psychic: There has been some reports where Robert will actually nod. It said.
Skeptic Psychic: I'm serious.
Kim Rodriguez: No, no, I believe you. I just you know that's very interesting. I wondered about that often. How do you know if he's saying yes or no.
Kim Rodriguez: I guess that the picture comes out also.
Skeptic Psychic: Yeah, maybe.
Kim Rodriguez: Yes, the letters often do contain apologies for disrespect.
Kim Rodriguez: you know. This could be like touching the glass.
Kim Rodriguez: laughing at him.
Kim Rodriguez: not taking him seriously.
Kim Rodriguez: However, writers sometimes also describe a series of unfortunate events that described them.
Kim Rodriguez: I'm sorry
Kim Rodriguez: that befell them
Kim Rodriguez: after their visit to the Museum
Kim Rodriguez: attributing to these misfortunes.
Kim Rodriguez: to Robert's displeasure.
Kim Rodriguez: Again they do ask for the forgiveness to plead with the doll, to lift any curse or bad luck that believed to have been placed on them.
Kim Rodriguez: However.
Kim Rodriguez: some story. I'm sorry some letters go beyond apologies.
Kim Rodriguez: and actually ask Robert for assistance or blessings.
Kim Rodriguez: This suggests that while some may fear him.
Kim Rodriguez: others believe that he has the ability to just bet I'm sorry to bestow. Words are hard to bestow good luck or aid on them.
Kim Rodriguez: These letters do often come from individuals who respect the doll's power and seek to be in his favor.
Kim Rodriguez: So it's like almost a
Kim Rodriguez: religious icon.
Skeptic Psychic: Maybe.
Kim Rodriguez: Good safe.
Skeptic Psychic: Yeah.
Skeptic Psychic: The phenomenon of writing to Robert underscores a unique and cultural
Skeptic Psychic: paranormal, significant heat that he holds.
Skeptic Psychic: The practice reflects the blend of fear, respect, and fascination that Robert continues to inspire in those who encounter his story, or even visit him.
Skeptic Psychic: Demonstrating this enduring plexity of the man man Mystique of the Key West folklore and beyond
Skeptic Psychic: museum staff members have also recounted hearing eerie sounds, such as giggling, are changes in Robert's facial expression.
Skeptic Psychic: especially when the Museum is closed to the public.
Skeptic Psychic: Furthermore, there are accounts of hearing roars at night.
Skeptic Psychic: Do do but to the
Skeptic Psychic: stuff flying that Robert has said to accompany him.
Skeptic Psychic: These roars
Skeptic Psychic: add an extract layer
Skeptic Psychic: of mystery and intimidation to the legend of Robert.
Skeptic Psychic: reinforcing the belief in his supernatural presence and power.
Kim Rodriguez: Now, skeptics generally view the phenomenon setup phenomenon
Kim Rodriguez: do do. Surrounding Robert the doll with a critical eye.
Kim Rodriguez: They attribute these stories and experiences to.
Kim Rodriguez: Sorry I lost my screen. Me get back.
Kim Rodriguez: Okay, there you are. Hi!
Skeptic Psychic: I learned.
Kim Rodriguez: I'm doing good.
Skeptic Psychic: Alright!
Kim Rodriguez: Okay, again, skeptics do generally view the phenomenon surrounding Robert the doll
Kim Rodriguez: with a critical eye.
Kim Rodriguez: They attribute these stories and experiences to psychological and social
Kim Rodriguez: and environmental factors.
Kim Rodriguez: Rather than just supernatural occurrences.
Kim Rodriguez: They often point
Kim Rodriguez: to the power of suggestion
Kim Rodriguez: as a key factor.
Kim Rodriguez: and the experiences that are reported by Robert, the doll.
Kim Rodriguez: So say you go to, you know you go, and you see Robert, and then you poke fun at him.
Kim Rodriguez: I'm not saying you should just saying if you did.
Kim Rodriguez: and you're driving home and you get a flat tire.
Kim Rodriguez: Well, people would say, Well, if you wouldn't have made fun of Robert that tire wouldn't have gone flat.
Kim Rodriguez: Yeah.
Skeptic Psychic: Or or you're try right trying to change that flat tire, and a car drives by you and just splashes the holy heck out of you.
Kim Rodriguez: Of water.
Skeptic Psychic: Yeah.
Skeptic Psychic: Now you notice the fact, it was raining so
Skeptic Psychic: that could happen.
Kim Rodriguez: But again
Kim Rodriguez: you disrespected Robert. You got wet changing your flat tire.
Kim Rodriguez: They also argue that eerie stories and legends that surround Robert, can.
Kim Rodriguez: you know, start visitors to feel that fear, anxiety, or anticipation?
Kim Rodriguez: This leads up to heightened emotional responses and a tendency to misinterpret
Kim Rodriguez: ordinary occurrences as paranormal.
Kim Rodriguez: So you're already hyped up by these stories. You go in and you see something out of the corner of your eye.
Kim Rodriguez: Oh, well, it must be Robert.
Kim Rodriguez: even though it could be just a
Kim Rodriguez: a reflection of a light, or somebody passing by, your mind automatically goes to Robert.
Kim Rodriguez: Also, they do suggest that, you know there is a bias that plays into the role of perpetrating the legend.
Kim Rodriguez: people that believe in Robert. Supernatural abilities are more likely to interpret any unusual event like, I said, into the evidence of it being
Kim Rodriguez: the doll is haunted.
Kim Rodriguez: This bias can lead
Kim Rodriguez: to, you know, any a natural occurrences like I mentioned, such as you know.
Kim Rodriguez: reflection of somebody going by the technical malfunctions, your camera running out of batteries, all of these again attributing to Robert the doll.
Kim Rodriguez: Well, now, it would be your phone dying because we don't have cameras really, except for on our phones anymore. But yeah, that all goes back to this idea that's already planted into our head, and not necessarily an actual haunting.
Skeptic Psychic: Now there is another thought of the skeptics might argue.
Skeptic Psychic: is legend of Robert has grown and persisted, due to the value
Skeptic Psychic: of the cultural, historical artifact.
Skeptic Psychic: The story of the stall contributes to the local identity and tourism industry of Key West, making it a compelling tale to preserve and share, regardless of the factual base.
Skeptic Psychic: Now.
Skeptic Psychic: regarding the reported technical malfunctions and strange occurrences, skeptons often look for a rational explanation such as low batteries.
Skeptic Psychic: user error. I know a lot about that
Skeptic Psychic: or environmental environmental factors that could
Skeptic Psychic: interfere with electronical devices.
Skeptic Psychic: They might also attribute words
Skeptic Psychic: of reports of dolls, movement, or changes in expression to optical illusions, or the imaginary interpretations of the outlookers.
Kim Rodriguez: So, in conclusion.
Kim Rodriguez: what are your thoughts about, Robert? The doll?
Kim Rodriguez: Is it just this healthy situation? I'm sorry. Is it just a situation of a man child that has a healthy chat, an unhealthy attachment to a child's toy?
Kim Rodriguez: Or
Kim Rodriguez: is it the case of a haunted object that controlled this man's life.
Kim Rodriguez: Was it the obsession with the doll that consumed the man and gave life to Robert?
Kim Rodriguez: Let us know in the comments your thoughts on this
Kim Rodriguez: and Richard, what do you think? Do you believe that, Robert, the doll?
Kim Rodriguez: It's actually a haunted doll
Kim Rodriguez: that was cursed by this servant.
Skeptic Psychic: I would not shoot sure about that.
Skeptic Psychic: you know, I did watch the when Zack had a visit for Robert and the Honda Museum.
Skeptic Psychic: and his doorman had to apologize to Robert because he got startled.
Kim Rodriguez: Yes, our favorite ghost, hunter.
Skeptic Psychic: Yes. But then, again, like I said, it's
Skeptic Psychic: Robert.
Skeptic Psychic: it's an interesting subject, I mean, could it be a basically, what does?
Skeptic Psychic: Scientists may so, and legends may say, is a Tula.
Skeptic Psychic: and I'd like to discuss what a tool is possibly in the future.
Kim Rodriguez: Oh, my gosh! I was just thinking that the other day we definitely should cover that I was listening to a an interview with
Kim Rodriguez: I want to say it was with Jack Osborn and
Kim Rodriguez: Cindy Kayser.
Kim Rodriguez: and they were talking about 2 lists, and I was like, this is something we need to cover on the podcast because it's such an interesting topic.
Kim Rodriguez: Me personally, with getting back to Robert.
Kim Rodriguez: I think, being the believer that I am, I want to believe that it's haunted, because you know just that eeriness
Kim Rodriguez: and how cool it would be.
Kim Rodriguez: But then the
Kim Rodriguez: rational side of my brain is like I'd have to see to believe it.
Kim Rodriguez: So that would
Kim Rodriguez: part of the reason why I would love to take a trip to Key West. And you know.
Kim Rodriguez: See this stall myself
Kim Rodriguez: to see if anything interesting occurs.
Kim Rodriguez: But let us know again. Let us know in the comments what you think
Kim Rodriguez: and next episode. We will be taking a trip back. I know it's been a while, but we are going back, as we promise to the haunted old West.
Kim Rodriguez: and we're going to look at some more stories there.
Kim Rodriguez: So make sure you do tune in there for some more spooks and scares of a forgotten time in our past.
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Skeptic Psychic: But everybody must have a very good day
Skeptic Psychic: and remember unpleasant nightmares.
Kim Rodriguez: Sweet dreams, everybody! We'll see you next time, and.
Skeptic Psychic: Good night.