Skeptic Psychic: Hello! How are you doing tonight? And welcome once again to the skeptics I kick, and now we are talking in the future.
Skeptic Psychic: How are you doing, Cam?
Kim Rodriguez: I'm doing good. How are you this week?
Skeptic Psychic: Doing fine.
Kim Rodriguez: That's good. Anything exciting happen on your end of the things.
Skeptic Psychic: Well, I've been losing weight.
Skeptic Psychic: I am working towards. Defeating my diabetes.
Skeptic Psychic: Yes, applause, applause, applause
Skeptic Psychic: working hard and hardly working and
Skeptic Psychic: doing a lot of driving. In fact, I drove up to Al's favorite place.
Kim Rodriguez: Yes, I heard you went to Albuquerque. What was that like?
Skeptic Psychic: It was Albuquerque.
Kim Rodriguez: Did you take that.
Skeptic Psychic: Yes, I did, in fact.
Kim Rodriguez: Yeah, that's the interesting thing is to get to Albuquerque. You have to turn left.
Skeptic Psychic: Right.
Kim Rodriguez: Actually, you're going down, I 10, and it tells you turn left to go to Albuquerque.
Skeptic Psychic: Yes, yes, I found a nice little National Park right. Smack dab in the well, about a block down from where I was supposed to.
Skeptic Psychic: take care of some business, so it was really cool.
Kim Rodriguez: Now somebody had told me that there's a
Kim Rodriguez: part of Albuquerque called Old Tale.
Kim Rodriguez: And it's supposed to be a very interesting place if we are sensitive.
Skeptic Psychic: Okay, yeah, I just
Skeptic Psychic: it said, I found the national. I found a national park. It was really nice.
Kim Rodriguez: yes. Well, hopefully, in a few months I can take a trip that way, and we can
Kim Rodriguez: check out some of those cool places maybe drive up to Roswell drive to
Kim Rodriguez: Ria, do down? I think Shauna would like that, cause I've got the if it's like it was last time we went. Remember how they had the the little
Kim Rodriguez: marketplace
Kim Rodriguez: that was very small, and they had all the cute little shops and stuff
Kim Rodriguez: we would. I think Shauna would enjoy that.
Skeptic Psychic: Yes, and also, I still think we should go back to Lincoln. Go back to
Kim Rodriguez: Oh, and see
Skeptic Psychic: Up there and see if see if Bob's still there.
Kim Rodriguez: Yeah, I don't think it was Fort Sumner. It was the the old jail.
Skeptic Psychic: Yeah.
Kim Rodriguez: The old jail. Yeah. But we are off topic. What are we talking about today?
Skeptic Psychic: So I guess we are on topic because we are talking about ghost stories of the Wild West. Part 2.
Kim Rodriguez: This is true.
Skeptic Psychic: Yes.
Kim Rodriguez: You.
Skeptic Psychic: Let me just get that little 3D effect in there.
Skeptic Psychic: Alright. So 2 thumbs up for that. Now
Skeptic Psychic: back back in early 2 2,022. We showed a few spooky stories over a campfire where coyotes yipped in a winds of moaned like the poor souls crawling all the way back from the days of the Wild Wild West
Skeptic Psychic: seems to be done, promised. We had so many stories that we'd have to revisit this dust to trail at again
Skeptic Psychic: at some point
Skeptic Psychic: now looks like at this time, for more ghoulies and ghosties is now. But don't you worry none. We still have plenty more house left on plumbered.
Skeptic Psychic: so let it be at less more time, and here, at nights around the old campfire to warm your coats of hands until your souls.
Skeptic Psychic: still coming in in the future
Skeptic Psychic: link to that previous episode will be in our
Kim Rodriguez: We'll go here.
Skeptic Psychic: We'll go here. We'll go here.
Kim Rodriguez: Yeah. Somewhere. Here.
Skeptic Psychic: Here or over there, or maybe over there, or couldn't.
Kim Rodriguez: Might be up here.
Skeptic Psychic: Or it might be that side, or it might be smack dab in the middle. But we truly did spend some times with the Wiley villains and poor souls that it left in their wake. So how about we start off tonight with a real bang as we sided all up under the protection, the military force, and sit, and those soldiers with guns keeping us scary things at bay.
Kim Rodriguez: Yes, first off, let's start with Fort Riley, which is located in Kansas.
Kim Rodriguez: Now. This was erected way back in 1852.
Kim Rodriguez: However, back. Then it wasn't called Fort Riley.
Kim Rodriguez: you see, originally it was slapped Dad, in the middle
Kim Rodriguez: of
Kim Rodriguez: of the area, I guess. Sub state.
Kim Rodriguez: so they called it the center. I'm sorry, Cap Center.
Kim Rodriguez: Now the powers that be named it properly before a full year had even passed.
Kim Rodriguez: and this was to honor a local general
Kim Rodriguez: who had recently died
Kim Rodriguez: in the line of duty.
Kim Rodriguez: The fourth cert.
Kim Rodriguez: The fort's purpose was to protect the pioneers
Kim Rodriguez: and the traders that were headed to Oregon.
Kim Rodriguez: California.
Kim Rodriguez: and Santa Fe through the trails.
Kim Rodriguez: So there was a lot of people who came in with throughout the years
Kim Rodriguez: through this sports.
Kim Rodriguez: Now some familiar names that you people might be aware of are, while Bill Hickok.
Skeptic Psychic: Yeah.
Kim Rodriguez: He spent some time at the fort as a scal.
Kim Rodriguez: and this was long before his days.
Kim Rodriguez: I'm sorry, long before his date with destiny at that poker table, down.
Skeptic Psychic: Now interesting to note. I I know I'm interrupting to you, but
Skeptic Psychic: The term! A dead man's hand, which is ace aces and apes
Skeptic Psychic: was spurned by Wild Bill Hickok, because that was his hand when he got shot.
Kim Rodriguez: Interesting note for all you poker players out there.
Skeptic Psychic: Now no one knows who brought it. In. But a short years after the ford with the fort was established.
Skeptic Psychic: cholera broke out.
Skeptic Psychic: Now we've discussed cholera in the past about the
Skeptic Psychic: what might have been, what not, might not have been the the cause of vampirism or werewolfism.
Skeptic Psychic: Now.
Kim Rodriguez: Think more vampires than werewolves.
Skeptic Psychic: Right, even though the epidemic only lasted a couple of days of the fort. It left somewhere between 75 and 125 dead in its wake.
Skeptic Psychic: Custard's wife.
Skeptic Psychic: who was living at the ford. The time was also
Skeptic Psychic: When customers heard of the color cholera epidemic, he was out on a military campaign elsewhere.
Skeptic Psychic: He promptly selected his finest men.
Skeptic Psychic: turned his command over to another officer, and high tilled it back to the fort as safe as he can
Skeptic Psychic: now Libby, his wife, was waiting for him, and when he arrived, and was in still good health, but Custard's court-martialed was for deserting his unit.
Skeptic Psychic: He was shipped to this command in the entire year because of it.
Skeptic Psychic: Now we all know
Skeptic Psychic: when he got his command back in time for a battle at A at the little Bighorn, but we all have have a place to cover that haunted patch of earth in the future episode.
Kim Rodriguez: Now back at the floor. It is said that the restless victims are to blame for the hauntings
Kim Rodriguez: that could be found there today.
Kim Rodriguez: Witnesses do report seeing or healing a dark group that provides galloping
Kim Rodriguez: across the ports. Parade grounds.
Kim Rodriguez: we say.
Kim Rodriguez: or because it varies from person to person.
Kim Rodriguez: Some people see it. Some people hear it.
Kim Rodriguez: so who knows? You can see under here, and just go.
Kim Rodriguez: Some will also see the special ride of shadowing horsemen, while others hear the sound of thundering posts.
Kim Rodriguez: voices raised in concern at the jingle jangle bits of the spurs.
Kim Rodriguez: Strangely, no one has ever experienced both the apparitions and the sounds. At the same time.
Kim Rodriguez: These special raiders are believed to be Custer's escort
Kim Rodriguez: as they race to where their house had stood at the time
Kim Rodriguez: one writer
Kim Rodriguez: who could possibly find the customer himself
Kim Rodriguez: is seen
Kim Rodriguez: to dismount from his horse and stride towards his home
Kim Rodriguez: by the rest of the troops right away.
Skeptic Psychic: Now
Skeptic Psychic: the fourth cemetery has its shares, goes, thanks to the epidemic
Skeptic Psychic: General Louis Armistead.
Skeptic Psychic: who eventually died at the battle of Gates. The Gettysburg is a frequent spectre seen at night sweeping over his wife's grave.
Skeptic Psychic: She was one of the many victims of the color cholera outbreak.
Skeptic Psychic: It is thought that the general still lingers at the At there, and his troops were ordered to march off to Fort Riley to escape the cholera epidemic, and fortunately they only made it 9 miles before the soldiers themselves began showing symptoms
Skeptic Psychic: the day he and his remaining troops limped weekly and rarely back to the fort. Aristead's wife. Cornelia
Skeptic Psychic: took his her last breath and died before he could even be reminded with her.
Skeptic Psychic: Those who witness this weeping forum leave behind, with a distinct
Skeptic Psychic: feeling that the general wants nothing more than be left alone in his grief.
Kim Rodriguez: I don't think he wants to be left alone in his grave. I think he would more want to be reunited with his wife. What do you think.
Skeptic Psychic: I think maybe that, left alone with his grief.
Kim Rodriguez: You don't think he ever wants to see his wife again.
Skeptic Psychic: I don't think so.
Kim Rodriguez: That's kind of heartless.
Skeptic Psychic: No, no, not really.
Kim Rodriguez: I mean, think about it. If your wife passed away and you never got to see her before she passed.
Kim Rodriguez: wouldn't you give anything to see her again?
Skeptic Psychic: And it all depends.
Kim Rodriguez: So heartless.
Skeptic Psychic: Maybe.
Kim Rodriguez: I know if my spouse passed I would definitely want to see them again.
Kim Rodriguez: and I would be grieving till we were reunited.
Kim Rodriguez: But I digress
Kim Rodriguez: another color.
Skeptic Psychic: Digress, digress.
Kim Rodriguez: Another cholera victim.
Kim Rodriguez: Miss Susan Fox
Kim Rodriguez: lived with her stepfather.
Kim Rodriguez: but she died alone when her father was away, and her fiance was nearby.
Kim Rodriguez: In a town called Hongwi City.
Kim Rodriguez: While he was there he was carrying for the sink.
Kim Rodriguez: Now. Miss Fox herself was buried in a wedding dress that she wouldn't be worn in their wedding
Kim Rodriguez: however.
Kim Rodriguez: when she passed she never realized that she was no longer among the living.
Kim Rodriguez: Now I say this because a home.
Kim Rodriguez: That had been turned over to new residents.
Kim Rodriguez: We're horrified to find Miss Fox herself standing outside and pleaded to be let in.
Kim Rodriguez: Mind you, she's dead. She's buried, she's gone all of a sudden. You hear a banging at the door? Please let me in.
Skeptic Psychic: Lauren later in.
Kim Rodriguez: She was not only
Kim Rodriguez: accompanied by the sound of her voice, but with the horrifying shrieks and moans
Kim Rodriguez: now evidently the Fort Commandment, tired of the complaints from these people
Kim Rodriguez: paid for a nearby padre or priest, as we also know it, to perform an exorcism of the home.
Kim Rodriguez: However, the sightings and the noises still continued.
Kim Rodriguez: The house itself was finally burned down to the ground.
Kim Rodriguez: and this was to discourage the girl from coming back.
Kim Rodriguez: She never! I'm sorry she no longer waits to be admitted into the home.
Kim Rodriguez: but she can still be seen on the grounds.
Kim Rodriguez: still wearing her wedding dress
Kim Rodriguez: and waiting for someone or something that's only she is aware of.
Kim Rodriguez: Thank you.
Skeptic Psychic: Working down the house and notice of the fact she's wearing. Oh, another woman in white.
Kim Rodriguez: Yes, she's wearing. She was buried in her white wedding gown.
Kim Rodriguez: and it could be possible that she's still looking for that home, that they burn down.
Skeptic Psychic: Maybe.
Kim Rodriguez: You let in.
Skeptic Psychic: Yep, that may be now local. Laura also speaks of a woman who haunts what is known as quarters 1, 2, 4.
Skeptic Psychic: The residence is said to be haunted by the ghostful woman who drowned herself in the local will.
Skeptic Psychic: so no one knows why she killed herself.
Skeptic Psychic: Her name has been lost in time.
Skeptic Psychic: but she can be heard walking shortly and dragging what sounds like a heavy wooden box behind her, up and down the stairs.
Skeptic Psychic: and exorcism at the residence con the spirit for the while.
Skeptic Psychic: but she was said to have returned a few years later.
Skeptic Psychic: She has apparently fallen silent again. Has it not been reported lately?
Kim Rodriguez: So I wonder if she's just finally moved on.
Skeptic Psychic: Maybe she got whatever she was inside the box.
Kim Rodriguez: What's in the box? What's in the.
Skeptic Psychic: Oh, it's.
Kim Rodriguez: Sorry. Yes, maybe. She finally got the box open and was able to pass on to another
Kim Rodriguez: another floor plane of existence.
Kim Rodriguez: Now the nearby river claims that a womanly voice can be heard singing a melancholy 2 melancholine
Kim Rodriguez: melancholy.
Kim Rodriguez: I that word seems hard for me to say tonight, so.
Skeptic Psychic: And Carly.
Kim Rodriguez: Thank you. A sad tune.
Skeptic Psychic: Dada dada dada.
Kim Rodriguez: And this could be her rolling up the bank, and you know
Kim Rodriguez: you can hear it through the thick of the trees.
Kim Rodriguez: There are 2 schools of thoughts to where this
Kim Rodriguez: voice could be coming from.
Kim Rodriguez: Those who have seen the figure claim that it's a misty flat barge or ferry that appears.
Kim Rodriguez: and it seems to be pulled through the waters by a dark womanly shape.
Kim Rodriguez: And this
Kim Rodriguez: this you know, see for a bit before it disappears from view.
Kim Rodriguez: It's also said that a man who operated the small ferry here in 18 hunt in the 18 hundreds
Kim Rodriguez: had a female
Kim Rodriguez: indentured person
Kim Rodriguez: to haul it to haul the occupants from one side of the river to the other.
Kim Rodriguez: Others claim that the haunted voice and figure belong to La Yoroda.
Kim Rodriguez: This is a female spirit that is said to haunt various
Kim Rodriguez: waterways in the American West.
Kim Rodriguez: That one
Kim Rodriguez: is more towards like going down towards the border, I would say, because the the lot, you don't wanna. It's a very well known Mexican folklore, or actually South American folklore. I would love to go into more detail on that in another episode, because I find it fascinating.
Kim Rodriguez: But I I definitely don't think she would be that far up
Kim Rodriguez: North and Kansas. I think she would be more like around from the Texas border on up to the California border. What are your thoughts.
Skeptic Psychic: Well, I think what we're talking about. A lady that's probably been in
Skeptic Psychic: tails toll anywhere from South Central up to the southern part of North America.
Kim Rodriguez: Make sense.
Kim Rodriguez: but this once particular one that they're talking about at this river.
Kim Rodriguez: I think it would be more of possibly like they said the the indigenous service, pulling the barge across the river, and not the other on the.
Kim Rodriguez: Continue.
Skeptic Psychic: Continue about the Civil Yards have been known for those on night guard duty, witnessing a soldier on horseback, gabbling it
Skeptic Psychic: galloping.
Skeptic Psychic: galloping into the first stable
Skeptic Psychic: building before disappearing from view. Before before reaching the end.
Skeptic Psychic: With the building itself is renovated
Skeptic Psychic: years local workers stumbled across a long deceased bones of a horse and rider hidden nearby in a ravine.
Kim Rodriguez: Oh, poor horsey.
Skeptic Psychic: Yeah, to this day. No one has any idea who the soldier or his mount was, was, or what caused their demise.
Skeptic Psychic: was, a yet another victim of cholera.
Skeptic Psychic: Maybe they died at patrol. Was he a victim of the latest Spanish flu epidemic that ranged across the world in the early nineteenth century or twentieth century.
Skeptic Psychic: Perhaps he and his horse were killed during a skirmish, and were left behind
Skeptic Psychic: well, where they failed no one knows for certain, except for the operation himself, and so far he has remained silent about it. Maybe he was on a secret mission.
Skeptic Psychic: That's why he's been silent about it.
Kim Rodriguez: Yes, you know, it's really sad that there was so many victims of the cholera and the Spanish flu.
Kim Rodriguez: and also skirmishes and battles that happen during this time
Kim Rodriguez: that
Kim Rodriguez: this unknown fallen soldier
Kim Rodriguez: we
Kim Rodriguez: we don't know his name. We don't know who he was in life or how he passed
Kim Rodriguez: it would be great if there was something in the records to to give this man a name and a live. But
Kim Rodriguez: you know we just may never know. And maybe that's why he still roams is because
Kim Rodriguez: he's he's trying to get his story out there. He wants people to know he lived and he died.
Skeptic Psychic: And died.
Kim Rodriguez: Out
Kim Rodriguez: for the ford itself. It does have more modern ghosts.
Kim Rodriguez: and we will go ahead and leave those for you. Discover on your own.
Kim Rodriguez: However, there is one that we want to mention.
Kim Rodriguez: It's the figure of a woman
Kim Rodriguez: wrapped in chains, who walked across the fields late at night.
Kim Rodriguez: Now.
Kim Rodriguez: just who is this woman, and why is it that she's wrapped in chains?
Kim Rodriguez: That is a mystery
Kim Rodriguez: that no one has yet to figure out again?
Kim Rodriguez: No one seems to have a feel for just what time period she's from.
Kim Rodriguez: or.
Kim Rodriguez: you know, when she lived at the forge.
Kim Rodriguez: her time for eternal splendors, her
Kim Rodriguez: eternal slumber
Kim Rodriguez: is spent on a task that no one seems to know.
Kim Rodriguez: So again, you know, maybe this is another spirit who there's no records that were kept of this poor woman and what was done to her. And again, she's wanting to get her story out there about the mistreatment she was given by being changed up like this.
Skeptic Psychic: Yeah, that is,
Skeptic Psychic: She's just
Skeptic Psychic: ghostly singing chain of fools by Ruth Franklin. Mind you.
Kim Rodriguez: Or maybe it's working on the chain
Kim Rodriguez: gang.
Skeptic Psychic: Or maybe it's
Skeptic Psychic: the chain of love.
Skeptic Psychic: or maybe she maybe she's
Skeptic Psychic: been cursed by
Skeptic Psychic: Jacob Marley.
Kim Rodriguez: Maybe.
Skeptic Psychic: Yeah, you know that. If you ever read a Christmas carol.
Skeptic Psychic: basically, this other Jacob Marley says we all carry chains.
Kim Rodriguez: Yes.
Skeptic Psychic: Now. Is anyone getting to us yet?
Skeptic Psychic: Perhaps we never tell us another log and fire.
Skeptic Psychic: I cook up some vacant and some beans.
Kim Rodriguez: Just make sure if you put Chili. There's no beans.
Skeptic Psychic: I mean, we could always always go out to the car jacket up and change the tire.
Kim Rodriguez: Just make sure if you make Chili there's no beans.
Kim Rodriguez: True, Texas Chili has no beans.
Skeptic Psychic: I don't believe that.
Kim Rodriguez: Oh, that's what I've always heard. But speaking of Texas.
Skeptic Psychic: Now.
Skeptic Psychic: how about we wind our way further south to the warmer grounds? Maybe stop in at Alamo?
Skeptic Psychic: No, those hollow grounds are full of ghosts, so we've already gave it its own episode. That's just fine. Texas has more ghost stories for you to shake a stick at.
Kim Rodriguez: This is true.
Skeptic Psychic: So let's talk about the Governor's governor's mansion.
Skeptic Psychic: You ever been to the garage merchant, Kim.
Kim Rodriguez: I haven't. I've always wanted to go.
Skeptic Psychic: I've actually
Skeptic Psychic: parked right beside it.
Kim Rodriguez: Now.
Kim Rodriguez: Governor, smashing, that's in. Where's that located.
Skeptic Psychic: San Antonio.
Kim Rodriguez: That's what I thought. But I was like, why would there be? I was like, why would there be a go like Governor's mansion in San Antonio when the capital is in
Kim Rodriguez: Austin. But you're right. Governor's mansion is in San Antonio. I've never been in it, but we've walked past it several times in our lives.
Skeptic Psychic: Now
Skeptic Psychic: fees. We, San Antonio, was actually the capital of Texas
Skeptic Psychic: during the time of the Spanish and Mexican withholding
Skeptic Psychic: now, according to reports, the north bedroom is haunted by a ghost of a 19 year old. Love struck young man who was burned by love and shot himself
Skeptic Psychic: surprisingly, even though this happened back in late 18 hundreds.
Skeptic Psychic: and his ghostly apparition immediately began making itself known.
Skeptic Psychic: So no one needs to needs to remember, or seems to remember this boy.
Skeptic Psychic: or his relation to the family or the girl he was in question in love with.
Skeptic Psychic: Some reports, say that this girl was the niece of Governor Murray's wife.
Skeptic Psychic: other State. The boy was Governor Mirene's nephew.
Skeptic Psychic: which could explain the Star Cross lovers lament as many
Skeptic Psychic: no wanted cousins to marry.
Skeptic Psychic: which seems surprisingly considered. Back in the day.
Skeptic Psychic: Cousins marrying cousins was still considered just fine in Texas and many other States.
Skeptic Psychic: They didn't pass a law against the first cousin marrying each other until 2,005.
Skeptic Psychic: There are even questions. If it was actually a gun that the young man used to kill himself.
Skeptic Psychic: But one thing is certain, all the stories agree upon is that the tiny guest room was positively bathed in blood.
Skeptic Psychic: In fact.
Skeptic Psychic: stories not only say it was downright messy, but the staff also refused to clean it.
Skeptic Psychic: It wasn't just because the Gore, it seemed that the lover boy, immediately upon his death, started making it known that if he's grief sticking and started.
Skeptic Psychic: but
Skeptic Psychic: and was unable or unwilling to move on.
Skeptic Psychic: the body itself wasn't even cold yet, and the doorknobs began rattling. Cold spots were spreading, banging sounds where some could be heard, and moans and whales were on repeat.
Skeptic Psychic: Apparently
Skeptic Psychic: years later another Governor.
Skeptic Psychic: Andrew J. Hamilton.
Skeptic Psychic: finally had the room sealed off with plaster and motor
Skeptic Psychic: to try to keep and muffle that disturbance. But the staff still reported with feelings of dread when working in the northern part of the mansion.
Skeptic Psychic: Rumors say that the Mansion inventory, which left it for each new governor, including a note from the previous Governor, warning him not to instill the room.
Skeptic Psychic: Now the room was unsealed during the renovation in the early part of the twentieth century, and favorite had it.
Skeptic Psychic: the poor kid is still moaning and carrying out out loud enough to wake the dead.
Skeptic Psychic: There's nothing quite like pain from your first love now, is there.
Kim Rodriguez: Like, I said. I've never been in the building.
Kim Rodriguez: but I can definitely say, you know, we've we've walked downtown quite a bit.
Kim Rodriguez: and
Kim Rodriguez: I remember every time passing the Governor's mansion. I always got a sense of sadness from it.
Kim Rodriguez: and this was ever since I was a little kid, even before I knew it was haunted. But I always felt like something was there, and.
Skeptic Psychic: Gloomy, gloomy clue.
Kim Rodriguez: But I like. I said I could definitely feel a sadness about the place.
Kim Rodriguez: and I could feel like like something was there.
Kim Rodriguez: again. This is when we were when I was very young, and
Kim Rodriguez: even before, you know, I
Kim Rodriguez: had heard the story and the hauntings. But yeah.
Kim Rodriguez: I'd definitely love to take a tour of the place, if possible, sometime.
Kim Rodriguez: And you know.
Kim Rodriguez: speaking of which, he's not the only spirit that's still on the government property.
Kim Rodriguez: There are also 2 former governors that still reside within.
Kim Rodriguez: There's Pendleton Mura himself.
Kim Rodriguez: and he is seen wandering around the mansion.
Kim Rodriguez: It's as if he cannot leave his former home.
Kim Rodriguez: even though he actually did flee the grounds and was hiding out in Mexico immediately after the Civil War ended.
Kim Rodriguez: This can be due to politics.
Kim Rodriguez: but it could be that, you know.
Kim Rodriguez: It was a very harsh time back then.
Kim Rodriguez: and
Kim Rodriguez: it was just too hard on his help.
Kim Rodriguez: You know the way he took off and fled
Kim Rodriguez: to Mexico
Kim Rodriguez: after the war.
Kim Rodriguez: and it was just too hard on his health, and he died very shortly after he got there.
Kim Rodriguez: so maybe he died too soon.
Kim Rodriguez: Maybe he really didn't want to leave, and he was
Kim Rodriguez: forced out by his advisors.
Kim Rodriguez: and he did miss his old home.
Kim Rodriguez: or it could be. He felt guilty about that poor kid Whaley upstairs, and he blocked off the room so that nobody could hear it.
Kim Rodriguez: But who really knows?
Skeptic Psychic: Nap.
Skeptic Psychic: Now the famous Texas governor, Sam Houston.
Skeptic Psychic: is also said to haunt these hallowed halls
Skeptic Psychic: ousted from the mansion back in 1861
Skeptic Psychic: for refusing to swear an oath to the Confederate States.
Skeptic Psychic: His coast can be seen a ground of beautiful 4 poster bed, and be installed in the southeast bedroom of the mansion.
Skeptic Psychic: He is. Yeah.
Kim Rodriguez: This is supposed to be he he had installed.
Skeptic Psychic: Well, it says B.
Kim Rodriguez: Yeah, but it makes more sense. Tea.
Skeptic Psychic: But 4 poster bed that be at installed in the northeast bed southeast bedroom of the mansion
Skeptic Psychic: he is frequently seen, but disappears if he tries speaking to him.
Skeptic Psychic: guest did.
Skeptic Psychic: The governor just wants to have a nap, and does not want to be bothered.
Kim Rodriguez: Yeah.
Kim Rodriguez: I don't know. I always thought if if Sam Houston is being very.
Kim Rodriguez: very kind of, you know, quiet, very studious, not really
Kim Rodriguez: one not really a rough house or not really one to to cause a scene more like, you know. That would be more towards Crocket or Bowie, but I always thought of him being, you know, very reserved.
Kim Rodriguez: So that would make sense that he he would want to be left alone even in death. What do you think.
Skeptic Psychic: I think he really wanted to be.
Skeptic Psychic: he's just
Skeptic Psychic: tired.
Kim Rodriguez: He's he said he had a long life. That's true.
Skeptic Psychic: Yeah.
Kim Rodriguez: A lot of a lot of war in his life.
Kim Rodriguez: Now there is also a poor maid that is known to be looking into the mansion.
Kim Rodriguez: It said that she was
Kim Rodriguez: impregnated out of wedlock.
Kim Rodriguez: and this was by somebody who lived in the mansion.
Kim Rodriguez: You know it could be that she just wants to be back into the mansion exonerated from her indiscretion.
Kim Rodriguez: Or maybe she's just waiting for the father to admit that he is the dad and take acknowledgement of his child.
Kim Rodriguez: You know, and do right for her and the child
Kim Rodriguez: again. We we may never know.
Skeptic Psychic: We may never know.
Skeptic Psychic: But maybe you need something a little bit more. Answer all that weeping and wailing.
Skeptic Psychic: Now in Ballinger, Texas.
Skeptic Psychic: there is a Gonzales restaurant that serves up the text. Mix along the side of an outlaw.
Skeptic Psychic: the outlaw whose name, like so many others, have been lost to me history ran a foul with the Texas Rangers while running around Ballinger.
Skeptic Psychic: Who's that name?
Skeptic Psychic: Because he's ducking into a saloon. The outlaw drew his gut fire in the Rangers. Fire killing him. Industry, times change, prohibition hits and the saloon becomes a department store and eventually becomes a restaurant.
Skeptic Psychic: The desperados new found. Noridi isn't for his old lawless ways, nor is it how he frequently seen within the restaurant and Phil Regalia making cold spots and moving the salt shakers and dinner wear around.
Skeptic Psychic: Apparently Norton, as the locals call him, is known for saving the place from a fire after the cook left the oven on overnight.
Skeptic Psychic: It seems he even appeared to the cook since then to remind him not to make that same mistake again.
Skeptic Psychic: though we have yet to record of either incident.
Skeptic Psychic: He's also renowned for walking through the walls in order to spoof the inspecting and to give waitresses a pinch on the bottom. Every now and then.
Kim Rodriguez: Well, you know it does seem like Norton's making the most out of his slice of eternity. Now you got me wanting some enchiladas and some good old text. Mix food, thanks.
Skeptic Psychic: Hmm we were planning to go up to go across to Lubbock this weekend. But I was
Skeptic Psychic: hoping for some some Texas barbecue instead.
Kim Rodriguez: Texas Barbecue, Texas. They're both right up there on my list.
Skeptic Psychic: So definitely.
Skeptic Psychic: So let's go ahead and hang around with the Long Star State, and let's just hop over to New Mexico. Land of enchantment.
Skeptic Psychic: Take a peek at those spooky humps.
Skeptic Psychic: The St. James Hotel in Cimarron.
Skeptic Psychic: not to be confused with simmer, but simmer was built by Harry Lambert in 1872.
Skeptic Psychic: There's been a plenty of shootouts during that heyday and dining room. Ceilings still have 22 bullet holes in the ceiling
Skeptic Psychic: that can be seen even today
Skeptic Psychic: plenty of Wild West outlaws made their way through the Cimarron and St. James itself, including Jesse, James.
Skeptic Psychic: Billy Kid, and the so-called gentleman, Gunfighter Clay Allison and Bob Ford.
Skeptic Psychic: the currently killer of Jesse James, has said to done some of its killing on its own property.
Skeptic Psychic: Buffalo Bill bit time here, as was Annie Oakley and White Earp.
Skeptic Psychic: along with a trained bandit known as Blackjack Ketchum.
Skeptic Psychic: More. I'll catch him in a moment.
Kim Rodriguez: Little side note.
Kim Rodriguez: Our great, great, great, great, great, great grandmother was Annie Oakley.
Kim Rodriguez: But was it a great aunt.
Skeptic Psychic: I think you're talking about our great great aunt was Bell Star.
Kim Rodriguez: Bell Star. That's right, Annie Oakley Bell Star. I get those 2 confused. But you're right.
Kim Rodriguez: Yeah, probably cut that out then.
Kim Rodriguez: did you know, speaking of some of these names that you mentioned here, they're making a young guns. 3.
Kim Rodriguez: Yep.
Kim Rodriguez: How are they? Gonna make a young guns? 3. They all died at the end of young guns. 2.
Skeptic Psychic: It's supposed to take play. It's supposed to go into the Brushy Bill controversy.
Kim Rodriguez: Interesting.
Kim Rodriguez: Have to check that out.
Kim Rodriguez: So
Kim Rodriguez: this is, of course.
Skeptic Psychic: So you know who's who's actually coming back.
Kim Rodriguez: Who's that?
Skeptic Psychic: It's actually coming back with
Kim Rodriguez: Amelia.
Skeptic Psychic: Emilio
Skeptic Psychic: and
Skeptic Psychic: Chavez. Yes, Chavez.
Kim Rodriguez: So it would have to be later in in Billy the Kid's life then, because well, no, because Billy the Kid died young, and I mean.
Skeptic Psychic: And yeah.
Skeptic Psychic: and Keefer.
Kim Rodriguez: Yeah, but they're all old now. How can they play their characters that they played when they were young? Billy the Kid died, I think before he was 30, and
Kim Rodriguez: he's now in his 60 s.
Skeptic Psychic: Brushy Bill was in his eighties when he
Kim Rodriguez: Now is this the the controversy that Billy the Kid actually wasn't killed?
Skeptic Psychic: there's actually 3 or 4 different
Skeptic Psychic: people. They brush your bills, the closest but there's actually, 3 or 4 different people, that step forward and say, I'm gonna leave the kid.
Kim Rodriguez: Interesting. I'd like to check that out, but we have gotten way off topic. I apologize with my Adhd.
Kim Rodriguez: We were talking about the St. James Hotel.
Kim Rodriguez: Now continuing on with the St. James Hotel. Visitors can stay in rooms named after these notorious deaths.
Kim Rodriguez: But yet it's mostly the victims that still haunt the place.
Kim Rodriguez: The St. Joe's. The St. James boasts that there are more than 26 murders within its walls.
Kim Rodriguez: and none of the dearly departed. Want to leave
Kim Rodriguez: most actively in the hotel is haunted by the gambler TJ. Wright.
Kim Rodriguez: and he was murdered, attributing
Kim Rodriguez: a winning hand at poker
Kim Rodriguez: and he tried to claim the hotel as part of his weddings.
Kim Rodriguez: The current owners talk about hearing the sounds of party atmosphere in the lobby.
Kim Rodriguez: This includes people talking.
Kim Rodriguez: glasses clinking.
Kim Rodriguez: but nobody is seeing.
Kim Rodriguez: The sound does seem to appear just sorry
Kim Rodriguez: the sound seems to disappear when the owner approaches.
Kim Rodriguez: Not wanting to interrupt. The owner claims that, she told the ghostly group.
Kim Rodriguez: I'm glad you're having a good time.
Kim Rodriguez: I'm glad you're here for a party.
Kim Rodriguez: Please leave everything as good as you found it, if not better.
Kim Rodriguez: With that she turned and walked away.
Kim Rodriguez: and as she did so the party resumed.
Kim Rodriguez: now she was pretty convinced that if it wasn't Mr. Wright celebrating his winnings, perhaps it was some other former clients out for an evening of fun.
Skeptic Psychic: Now the hotel itself has a series of renofated rooms, allowing a museum like atmosphere, with photographs hanging in the hall for more notorious clientele.
Skeptic Psychic: The owners claim that most spooky action can be laid in the feed of 3 spirits, though we aren't quite sure what they have common. Up to this information
Skeptic Psychic: TJ. Wright Winter. The deadly hand, is known for locally as simply as 18.
Skeptic Psychic: However, since this reading show that he was still alive and kicking in Albuquerque long after his supposed lives.
Skeptic Psychic: 18 can apparently can apparently be quite testy, for the owners now keep this room blocked with a face. Flowers sitting in front of the door to keep guests for trying to take a peek.
Skeptic Psychic: 18 is said to have retained.
Skeptic Psychic: re retailed against the retaliated, allowing their their shift to stay overnight in rooms that try and catch a glimpse of the gambler
Skeptic Psychic: his revenge. Apparently one owner, pet birds, was found dead the next morning, although in autopsy on this tiny court revealed that there was no cause of death.
Skeptic Psychic: Stories say, however, that the whenever the 8 team gets out of hand, that the chef is often sent to his room as 18 simply seems to like the guy.
Skeptic Psychic: and the chef is the only one who gets the wily spirit to calm down.
Kim Rodriguez: Now, what I'm wondering is, could this be 2
Kim Rodriguez: different things? It could either be one.
Kim Rodriguez: After Tj. Wright died
Kim Rodriguez: he.
Kim Rodriguez: his spirit returned
Kim Rodriguez: to the hotel because of the fact of
Kim Rodriguez: he enjoyed it there, I mean he he wanted to take the hotel in in his winning. So obviously he liked the place.
Kim Rodriguez: So maybe after his death in Albuquerque
Kim Rodriguez: he went back.
Kim Rodriguez: or it could be what do you call it?
Kim Rodriguez: When a ghost is created by people's stories, and it's like the stories create the entity.
Kim Rodriguez: So it could be either one of those series. What do you think?
Kim Rodriguez: Good
Kim Rodriguez: now for the chef? Of course I mean, talk about job security. You know they're gonna fire. You with 18 likes. You.
Skeptic Psychic: Yep.
Kim Rodriguez: We also have Mary.
Kim Rodriguez: and
Kim Rodriguez: this spirit was named after Mary Lambert. She was the wife of the original owner.
Kim Rodriguez: She is said to live in her old room.
Kim Rodriguez: and we'll sometimes venture out
Kim Rodriguez: into the hallways, but mostly
Kim Rodriguez: you will only know that she's there from the scent of her distinct perfume.
Kim Rodriguez: and this comes and goes.
Kim Rodriguez: She also makes herself known to the guests by staying in her room.
Kim Rodriguez: and
Kim Rodriguez: she likes to have her windows closed.
Kim Rodriguez: So.
Kim Rodriguez: you know, if you
Kim Rodriguez: we're trying to open them, she tries to keep them shut, so it's a struggle to open them.
Kim Rodriguez: If you do succeed in opening them, however.
Kim Rodriguez: she will start wrapping at the room second story window, insisting that you close the windows.
Kim Rodriguez: and this will continue on until the window is shut completely.
Kim Rodriguez: However, in gratitude, she will reduce the temperature in the room to accommodate.
Kim Rodriguez: if you ask her to.
Kim Rodriguez: Now again the perfume that could be
Kim Rodriguez: I don't know could be somebody walking by, and they're sent lingers, and then you come in and you smell it. And you think, oh, that must be Mary.
Kim Rodriguez: It would depend on how distinct that smell is that you could say
Kim Rodriguez: that? Oh, well, nobody here. Where's that sent, I mean, how do you really know.
Kim Rodriguez: Are you gonna go knocking on every door? Excuse me, are you bringing this perfume? Excuse me, do you have this hint of lavender in your perfume, or maybe it's a hint of
Kim Rodriguez: of I don't know. Give me another sent garden. Yes.
Kim Rodriguez: You never know.
Skeptic Psychic: Who knows? But up with
Skeptic Psychic: now, earlier we did mention about the
Skeptic Psychic: known gunfighting outlaw blackjack catch him?
Skeptic Psychic: Well, his tell is right hard to swallow.
Skeptic Psychic: it seemed Thomas catch him and his brother Sam
Skeptic Psychic: decided the life of crime was more to their liking than being honest men.
Skeptic Psychic: At first they stayed in their native Texas, breaking in and looting stores at night, and basically just making trouble before they moved into robbing payroll trains across the New Mexico territory.
Kim Rodriguez: Now you did miss the third amp.
Kim Rodriguez: which is like.
Skeptic Psychic: I did miss it. Let me go back and take a look at that imp, because
Skeptic Psychic: the third spirit.
Skeptic Psychic: the hemp, is apparently a practical joker who likes to adjust lamps, make off with pens and calculators, and pull jars of pickles from the shelves and roll them out over the kitchen.
Skeptic Psychic: Now the Imp. This is said to have only been seen once
Skeptic Psychic: by a newly hired 15 year old boy.
Skeptic Psychic: This poor team was sent to vacuum the carpets at the bar, and he looked up to see a dwarf sitting at the bar, his feet propped up on the neighborhood, still and laughing at the boy.
Skeptic Psychic: The boy was so unnerved he went straight home, got his mother, and had her stand nearby to make sure that the dwarf.
Skeptic Psychic: of whom she couldn't see, didn't do anything more than just sit there.
Skeptic Psychic: As soon as the boy finished the task he assigned to him that day, he probably quit
Skeptic Psychic: never to return to that hotel.
Kim Rodriguez: Now
Kim Rodriguez: 15 year old boy
Kim Rodriguez: sees the spirit. Nobody else is seen.
Skeptic Psychic: Yep.
Kim Rodriguez: Do you really think he saw the spirit.
Kim Rodriguez: or do you think working was harder than what he thought it would be, and was looking for a way out of that job.
Skeptic Psychic: Oh, we're talking about lazy kids these days, right.
Kim Rodriguez: You never know.
Skeptic Psychic: Yeah.
Kim Rodriguez: I mean, there's always been lazy kids, I mean, that's it fits me human nature.
Kim Rodriguez: But we can't say for sure if the St. James is truly haunted.
Skeptic Psychic: Right.
Kim Rodriguez: However.
Kim Rodriguez: there have been many paranormal investigators that were brought in.
Kim Rodriguez: you know. It just seems a bit odd that none of these so-called sightings
Kim Rodriguez: happened until after it was purchased in 1985.
Kim Rodriguez: However, what do we know?
Kim Rodriguez: We can?
Skeptic Psychic: You know that.
Kim Rodriguez: We know nothing.
Kim Rodriguez: but we can honestly admit that we have yet to set foot in the place to see for ourselves
Kim Rodriguez: again. Yeah, publicity, stunt.
Kim Rodriguez: actual hauntings.
Kim Rodriguez: things to make you go.
Skeptic Psychic: Pain to make you go. Hmm!
Kim Rodriguez: Nil
Kim Rodriguez: back to old.
Kim Rodriguez: Catch them, blackjack, catch them! Yep.
Kim Rodriguez: Now these brothers had no problem shooting. Those who either got in their way
Kim Rodriguez: or the posse that was sent to hunt them down.
Kim Rodriguez: They spend time as part of their own game, with members coming and going as they please.
Kim Rodriguez: There was even a time where they joined up with Bitch Cassidy
Kim Rodriguez: and the Hole in the Wall boys.
Kim Rodriguez: The brothers went separate ways from time to time.
Kim Rodriguez: but they always seem to find one another again.
Kim Rodriguez: It does seem, though, on one of their separations that Sam and some boys tried to repeat the success of the actions actions Topeka and Santa Fe Payroll
Kim Rodriguez: train.
Kim Rodriguez: and there was a shootout that occurred.
Kim Rodriguez: Sam was wounded in the shoulder.
Kim Rodriguez: and slowly the gang.
Kim Rodriguez: I'm sorry
Kim Rodriguez: Sam was wounded in the shoulder, and it slowed the gang down.
Kim Rodriguez: So he left for a local ranch where the posse eventually found him.
Kim Rodriguez: He ended up dying shortly after for blood poisoning.
Kim Rodriguez: and this caused an infection.
Skeptic Psychic: Yep, it could have like I said it could have happened. Anybody.
Kim Rodriguez: But it happened to good old Sam.
Skeptic Psychic: Sam, who had
Skeptic Psychic: shot in the shoulder and died of lead poisoning.
Kim Rodriguez: Elmer.
Skeptic Psychic: Yeah. Now, Blackjack, who had earned his name by once being as taken for another outlaw by a blackjack, either did not know of a Sam's demise, or was out there wanting to seek revenge.
Skeptic Psychic: But he did, however, try to ambush the same rail line at the very same water exchange that his brother had and did on his own
Skeptic Psychic: with basically the same resort.
Skeptic Psychic: The conductor, now weary of bandits, was armed and managed to shoot blackjack in the elbow, not at him, clean off the saddle.
Skeptic Psychic: Upon reaching town the conductor informed the local posse where he had last seen Blackjack, and sure enough. The next morning Black Jack was still lying there next to the tracks and slowly bleeding out.
Skeptic Psychic: Now Black Jack was tossed onto a back for horse and hauled off to be treated.
Skeptic Psychic: During that time he winds up, having his arm amputated, and is allowed to recuperate while awaiting his trial.
Skeptic Psychic: My gosh!
Skeptic Psychic: It sounds like the the worst outlaw ever
Skeptic Psychic: now unsure of what to do with his bandits. The locals decide. The best thing to do is to simply hang the man, but hey, at least they gave him time to recover from his wounds. First.
Kim Rodriguez: Well, yeah, I mean, you know, cruel and unlawful punishment.
Skeptic Psychic: Yeah.
Kim Rodriguez: You you you can't just torture the guys. You gotta take care of them before you kill them.
Skeptic Psychic: Don't want.
Kim Rodriguez: Suffer!
Skeptic Psychic: Yeah, suffer, suffer, suffer.
Kim Rodriguez: The evening before it is hanging. The locals decided to test a gib, a chiplet
Kim Rodriguez: that they had slapped together.
Kim Rodriguez: I'm sorry. Give it not Triplet. Giblets are on
Kim Rodriguez: foods, some kind of food.
Kim Rodriguez: as one
Kim Rodriguez: had never legally been hung in the Territory before.
Kim Rodriguez: You can hardly but blame them for wanting to to test it out and make sure everything was right.
Kim Rodriguez: And you know you had a hundred 50 tickets sold to this hanging.
Kim Rodriguez: So you want to make sure everything goes right. So people get what they pay for.
Skeptic Psychic: Some people used to bring lunches.
Kim Rodriguez: now the stiff rope
Kim Rodriguez: used was not the right kind.
Kim Rodriguez: but black poor blackjack.
Skeptic Psychic: Yeah.
Kim Rodriguez: Oh, my gosh! He had.
Skeptic Psychic: Like, I said, this is coming out to turn out to be the worst outlaw ever.
Kim Rodriguez: He had taken advantage of these regular feedings that they were giving him and exercising while he recovered.
Kim Rodriguez: So good for Butt, Jack, you know they're gonna let you heal up. So take advantage of that.
Kim Rodriguez: Eat well, exercise, get yourself healthy.
Skeptic Psychic: Aye.
Kim Rodriguez: So, anyway, during this time he did gain some weight, and
Kim Rodriguez: you know
Kim Rodriguez: they they tested the line with about 215 pounds of sack tied to the rope, because they're thinking. You know.
Kim Rodriguez: he's got to weigh about that much by now.
Kim Rodriguez: Sure enough.
Kim Rodriguez: you know, when they were testing with the with the bag of sand. The
Kim Rodriguez: trap door opened like it was supposed to, and the rope hill.
Kim Rodriguez: you know they were really satisfied that this was looking well for their and you know, for the people coming to watch this hanging.
Kim Rodriguez: and you know
Kim Rodriguez: they headed home
Kim Rodriguez: happiest cams.
Kim Rodriguez: but they failed to untie the heavy weight from the rope.
Kim Rodriguez: So you know.
Kim Rodriguez: it was still there, swaying in the wind that kicked up the oncoming rainstorm.
Skeptic Psychic: Now, if you think that the ring was gonna stop by hanging.
Skeptic Psychic: Yes, again. The following morning Blackjack ate his final breakfast and jointly told the sheriff they need to get a move on, as he wanted to reach hail at time for supper.
Skeptic Psychic: He even joked for the crowd as he's bound up the stairs to a waiting news, telling him that. Be sure they bury me deep, boys.
Skeptic Psychic: Now there's a bit of a wait. Once he reached the top of the scaffold as he asked for the black hood
Skeptic Psychic: which had procured and removed. Once the hangman realized the extremity of the stiff rope.
Skeptic Psychic: now freed of its bag.
Skeptic Psychic: could hardly be bent to loop over his head.
Skeptic Psychic: Poor Blackjack's head, covered, had to be removed while, and men struggled to get his head in the news.
Skeptic Psychic: By the time the blacks news
Skeptic Psychic: was back on his head or Black Hood, I'm sorry Blackjack was more than ready to
Skeptic Psychic: to go.
Skeptic Psychic: Let a rip! He shouted.
Skeptic Psychic: and so they did.
Kim Rodriguez: And rip. It did.
Kim Rodriguez: meaning the rope.
Kim Rodriguez: stiff as wire, was not only
Kim Rodriguez: too long for someone of Blackjack's height.
Kim Rodriguez: but it had to cleanly slap his neck.
Kim Rodriguez: So when you hang, basically, you know the rope supposed to snap your neck, and that's how you die.
Kim Rodriguez: Yep.
Kim Rodriguez: However, this didn't happen.
Skeptic Psychic: Yep.
Kim Rodriguez: Instead, onlookers were stunned to see. The body lay cleanly on its feet.
Kim Rodriguez: standing there for a couple of minutes, swaying like a jizy
Kim Rodriguez: before collapsing to the ground.
Kim Rodriguez: and the rip.
Kim Rodriguez: sadly to say that was poor Black Jack's head being ripped clear off his body.
Skeptic Psychic: Oh, almost like Saddam Hussein.
Kim Rodriguez: You see, freeze with the weight of the body.
Kim Rodriguez: The head was caught within the black hood that no one that now became essentially a back holding it.
Kim Rodriguez: and it bounced on the end of the line with enough force to launch it back in the year.
Kim Rodriguez: This went through the trapdoor and landed deeply on the planks for all the world to see
Kim Rodriguez: as a bag blue jar with the blood
Kim Rodriguez: witnesses. All looked in horror
Kim Rodriguez: as the body finally collapsed and spewed out crimson fountain
Kim Rodriguez: of blood.
Kim Rodriguez: Blackjack's head
Kim Rodriguez: sat just jauntingly on the platform.
Kim Rodriguez: as if it had decided
Kim Rodriguez: that at the last minute no, it would rather not meet back up with the remains below.
Skeptic Psychic: Hmm! Why does that sound nice?
Kim Rodriguez: So what? That text? Max.
Skeptic Psychic: Yeah, sure. Do.
Kim Rodriguez: That Mark takes this barbecue.
Skeptic Psychic: Oh, yeah.
Skeptic Psychic: did he blink, looking through blind eyes at the darkness when the hood no one knows, and it said he died instantly, but witnesses from from beheadings by the guillotine have long claimed that the eyes blink and moving lips with words that longer have a voice to speak.
Kim Rodriguez: Yeah, it's the nurse jerking.
Kim Rodriguez: The crowd certainly did get their money's worth that day.
Kim Rodriguez: and the town made sure to photograph the headless corpse
Kim Rodriguez: lying it beneath the gibbet where the where it had landed.
Kim Rodriguez: Now
Kim Rodriguez: this is the the
Kim Rodriguez: interesting part, or hmm
Kim Rodriguez: more like morbid part.
Skeptic Psychic: This is this, is this is not.
Kim Rodriguez: This is.
Skeptic Psychic: Yeah.
Kim Rodriguez: This is pretty morbid. They actually sold those pictures as a macabre souvenir
Kim Rodriguez: on postcards.
Skeptic Psychic: Ok.
Kim Rodriguez: So how would you like that? You're you're sending out your postcard. Say, you have your your relative in New York, and you're sending them a postcard, dear.
Kim Rodriguez: Not so, and so loving it here in town. Hope you are well. And then on the back of the foot is a picture of this body.
Kim Rodriguez: How my job or morbid is that.
Skeptic Psychic: As kind of the. It's having a wonderful time. Wish you were here.
Kim Rodriguez: That's bad.
Skeptic Psychic: It's bad.
Skeptic Psychic: alright. So
Skeptic Psychic: poor Blackjack went down in history for several reasons, not just for his heads outstanding acropolics and performance, but because he was the last person to be sentenced to hang by his peers in New Mexico territory.
Skeptic Psychic: He is also known as the only outlaw to hang anywhere from merely trying to rob a train.
Kim Rodriguez: Yes, it turns out that several years later
Kim Rodriguez: New Mexico, when it became a State
Kim Rodriguez: the
Kim Rodriguez: Senate support blackjack was actually determined to be illegal.
Kim Rodriguez: but you know there was no way to like
Kim Rodriguez: bring justice about it, because he had been long since dead.
Kim Rodriguez: Maybe I mean, was Sam, his only relative. Do you not have any other relatives that they could have paid retributions to for this happening to Port Sam.
Skeptic Psychic: Sam! But Sam had died, but.
Kim Rodriguez: You know I'm sorry you're not saying blackjack.
Kim Rodriguez: I mean. I'm sure something could have been done if he had some family left over.
Skeptic Psychic: Yeah.
Skeptic Psychic: So you know, who knows
Skeptic Psychic: but at least the town paid for his head to be stitched on after the falls were taken. So the curious town folk could look on his dead body decently in one piece.
Skeptic Psychic: which is ironic, considering that the dismembered him for burial, making it easier to carry his heavy corpse up to the grave. While waiting on top of the hill.
Kim Rodriguez: My gosh! That poor blackjack.
Skeptic Psychic: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. This is the worst
Skeptic Psychic: worst outlaw.
Kim Rodriguez: Wow! This was gruesome.
Kim Rodriguez: Does it truly count as a ghost story?
Kim Rodriguez: Well, there just so happens to be a person who claims that they've seen poor Blackjack since his death.
Kim Rodriguez: Maybe he was looking for his head. Maybe he was looking for other parts of his body.
Skeptic Psychic: Where's my head? Where's my head?
Kim Rodriguez: This testimony did come from a 14 year old Boy Scout.
Skeptic Psychic: Oh, you can always stress voice, gap.
Kim Rodriguez: Right.
Kim Rodriguez: It seems that the Fill Knot Scout Ranch contained with its borders one of Black Jeff's old hollydocks.
Kim Rodriguez: In the year, in many years since his death the ranch became the place where scouting groups from all over came
Kim Rodriguez: for weeks of hiking, camping, and wilderness training.
Kim Rodriguez: It was on one of these outings that the master told the stories of blackjack upon their hike in the cave.
Kim Rodriguez: The cave itself turned out to be rather disappointing, and there was nothing left inside but rocks.
Kim Rodriguez: Once you specifically can't flag.
Kim Rodriguez: I still think it'd be cool to check out Kay. But that's just me.
Skeptic Psychic: And hmm.
Kim Rodriguez: However, for these poor campers it was more
Kim Rodriguez: disheartening
Kim Rodriguez: that the Count.
Kim Rodriguez: the scoutmaster, insisted that the boys camp at a designated campsite
Kim Rodriguez: rather in the hideout.
Kim Rodriguez: I can understand that, being a disappointment, man, I'd be like. Let's let's camp here.
Kim Rodriguez: However.
Skeptic Psychic: No, no, no, kids, we don't. Wanna ho! There may be bats definitely. Bats.
Kim Rodriguez: Or bears.
Skeptic Psychic: Are bears.
Kim Rodriguez: Or or
Skeptic Psychic: Are pew, but.
Kim Rodriguez: Yes, yeah. Not mine.
Skeptic Psychic: PMS.
Kim Rodriguez: Pumas, mountain lions, you know, wherever you're at.
Kim Rodriguez: I forget what we call them here in Texas.
Kim Rodriguez: But I regret digress if you know what they call into Texas again. Let me know, because I know it's not a mountain, something else.
Skeptic Psychic: Humor.
Kim Rodriguez: Now. Pima's somewhere else.
Kim Rodriguez: Anyway, I'm I'm getting off topic. If you know, leave in the comments, or if I find out, I'll leave it in the comments. But boys being boys.
Kim Rodriguez: a group of the scouts did wait until their others
Kim Rodriguez: scouts fell asleep.
Kim Rodriguez: and they grabbed their bags and they snuck off to spend the night in the cave.
Skeptic Psychic: Stump, scout master.
Kim Rodriguez: They woke up
Kim Rodriguez: a few hours later upon hearing noises
Kim Rodriguez: coming from the brush outside the cave again could have been outlines could have been
Kim Rodriguez: bats, bears, wolves, coyotes.
Kim Rodriguez: but they heard noises in the brush outside.
Kim Rodriguez: Now they have lit a fire, and the coals had burned low.
Kim Rodriguez: so they watched.
Kim Rodriguez: According to them.
Kim Rodriguez: a cowboy came running out from behind the cover of the trees lit by the full moon.
Kim Rodriguez: Part of the count did seem solid.
Kim Rodriguez: but in other parts the voice could see right through his body parts.
Kim Rodriguez: You know. That can be, you know, great. They just remembered the poor guy that makes sense.
Skeptic Psychic: Right.
Kim Rodriguez: Part of it was solid. Part of them wasn't.
Skeptic Psychic: You know I dismember you.
Kim Rodriguez: But you know the boys watched in horror as the man grew newer.
Kim Rodriguez: and
Kim Rodriguez: you know
Kim Rodriguez: they could not move or make a sound. Basically they were so freaked out by all of this.
Skeptic Psychic: So you know, the story goes that
Skeptic Psychic: In the moonlight the terrible scouts could clearly see a man's face and clothing, and the man drew near that the boys could even see the yellowing of his teeth as he's looked down back in the direction he had just come from
Skeptic Psychic: our Volvo at the man's hand shown in the light of the scouts, heard voices shouting just out of sight.
Skeptic Psychic: The sounds of gunfire filled the air with figures left off 6 shots in return before running towards the terrified scout. Another shot rang out, and the apparition clutched his arm and came a stop next to the boy, seeming unaware of the scouts camping there.
Skeptic Psychic: The Phantom managed this empty the spent shell casings from his gun, and had just begun reloading before his final case casting, hit the boy sleeping back, and disappeared from sight.
Skeptic Psychic: That could have been Sam.
Skeptic Psychic: Once again the ghosts began firing into the trees, while the boy stared in horror as the bloody, dripping hole from his man's spectral shoulder.
Kim Rodriguez: That would have been Sam cause Sam was off the shoulder.
Kim Rodriguez: The blackjack was shot in the and
Kim Rodriguez: alcohol. Yeah.
Kim Rodriguez: So yeah. So they saw, so they didn't even see Black Jack. They saw Senior.
Skeptic Psychic: Sam.
Kim Rodriguez: Now something about the scout apparently caught the man's attention, and he spun his revolver raised to the boy's head.
Kim Rodriguez: After a few moments of silence the scout was watched. This I'm sorry. The scout watched as the man lowered his gun in confusion.
Kim Rodriguez: and he said.
Kim Rodriguez: You're not supposed to be here.
Kim Rodriguez: and then he disappeared.
Kim Rodriguez: The scout, too, frightened.
Kim Rodriguez: you know, and
Kim Rodriguez: not believing what he just saw, maybe he drinks the entire episode
Kim Rodriguez: remain awake for hours
Kim Rodriguez: before he was able to go back to sleep.
Kim Rodriguez: By the time the sun came up
Kim Rodriguez: his companions had to shake him to get him awake.
Kim Rodriguez: and then they'd had to sneak back to their tents to the cap.
Kim Rodriguez: He managed to get his story out of what just happened in the night, while the boys began rolling their sleeping bags, making sure that their campfire was extinguished
Kim Rodriguez: as our scout moves up.
Kim Rodriguez: I'm sorry, is there? Scat? Ugh! Tong!
Kim Rodriguez: As her scout moves to roll up his sleeping bag. He spots 6 shell casings
Kim Rodriguez: the cowboy had dropped, laying in the jerk beside him.
Kim Rodriguez: Interesting.
Skeptic Psychic: Yeah.
Skeptic Psychic: fellow scouts accused him of playing a big joke on him, but no one thinks much of when the boy gathers up to spend casings and sneak back into camp.
Skeptic Psychic: It's a couple of weeks before the boys time at the ranch had come to an end, and they headed back home.
Skeptic Psychic: Our scout is there able to look up a picture of what Black Jack Kitchen looked like.
Skeptic Psychic: Surprised. The image showed the very man the boy claims, had pointed a gun to his head.
Skeptic Psychic: At some point he shows the casings to a friend's father, who happened to be an antique weapons at work.
Skeptic Psychic: Stud.
Skeptic Psychic: The expert confirmed. The casings were indeed from the 18 hundreds.
Skeptic Psychic: The type of gunpowder used back then was apparently a different mix than what it's used today.
Skeptic Psychic: and the scent from the original gunpowder is still strong on the casings themselves.
Skeptic Psychic: He is then told by Expert that no one has ever seen old spent casings look like in mid condition like these were.
Kim Rodriguez: Again, though if Black Jack and Sam were brothers they would. I mean, it's very possible that they look very similar.
Kim Rodriguez: I mean, I've been told that I look a lot like you, and I've been told I look a lot like Scott.
Kim Rodriguez: so you know being related. It is very possible that he got Sam mixed up with
Kim Rodriguez: blackjack, especially if he was like that, terrified. I mean, you know you don't get a good look, and you just see somebody who looks like them, and you're like, Oh, that's who it was. But I still say, Sam, you shot the shoulder. It was Sam.
Skeptic Psychic: Yep.
Kim Rodriguez: Now the Scott does, claims that he kept the cases hidden away.
Kim Rodriguez: However, after he moved out of his parents house.
Kim Rodriguez: his mother does come across him and throw them away.
Kim Rodriguez: Question now.
Kim Rodriguez: is our scouts?
Kim Rodriguez: Is our scout telling the truth?
Kim Rodriguez: Or is this just another call tail to come out of the West.
Kim Rodriguez: After all.
Kim Rodriguez: ghost stories do have a way of sprouting up and taking on the life of their realm.
Kim Rodriguez: The scal.
Kim Rodriguez: I love us, you know, unlike other such yarns.
Kim Rodriguez: does not hesitate to name himself in the account
Kim Rodriguez: when he wrote it up years later.
Kim Rodriguez: Take it to leave it.
Kim Rodriguez: He doesn't really seem to care.
Kim Rodriguez: but that does say a lot
Kim Rodriguez: that he hasn't tried making money or earning any notoriety off his story.
Skeptic Psychic: Yeah. Now, as we're going retired to Mexico.
Skeptic Psychic: how about we hop over the border
Skeptic Psychic: to Utah?
Skeptic Psychic: Turns out. And what could be an episode. It's all that owned the States of Wyoming, Colorado, Utah, and New Mexico, connected by a North South highway known as 4 91
Skeptic Psychic: locals have to remember
Skeptic Psychic: locals, however, still remember the road. Was it its original denomination?
Skeptic Psychic: Highway 6, 66,
Skeptic Psychic: renamed in 1993. As the road signs kept being stolen by pranksters.
Skeptic Psychic: The so called Devil's Highway was the spur from its original highway. 666 had its name also changed to 491 and 2,003.
Kim Rodriguez: No
Kim Rodriguez: highways. More recent claims include a girl. Another girl in White lady in white.
Skeptic Psychic: Hmm! We have so many of those.
Kim Rodriguez: Yes, and it, she said, to travel along the desolate desert rose
Kim Rodriguez: and disappears when motorists pull over to offer her a ride.
Kim Rodriguez: It's also said that skin walkers are said to appear as wild animals in the road.
Kim Rodriguez: These skill walkers force the drivers to
Kim Rodriguez: swarming crash.
Kim Rodriguez: or are they real animals, just, you know.
Kim Rodriguez: driving along, they see the headlights. They freeze like a deer in the headlights.
Kim Rodriguez: What do you think.
Skeptic Psychic: Hmm! There with headlights.
Kim Rodriguez: Now.
Kim Rodriguez: should the driver manage to keep his will on the wheels on the road?
Kim Rodriguez: this genwalker would appear in their backseat.
Kim Rodriguez: Okay, so maybe it's not a dear caught the headlights
Kim Rodriguez: as they appear in the vaccine, and this, you know, does seem to terrify the driver, and they have a horrible accident.
Kim Rodriguez: You also got your Ufo stories
Kim Rodriguez: there. He also
Kim Rodriguez: I also talk about hellhounds with sharp teeth.
Kim Rodriguez: glowing red eye, or I'm sorry. Glowing yellow eyes
Kim Rodriguez: again. What color! A dog size from the like sitting. Come on, people think about it.
Kim Rodriguez: Tailhouse with sharp teeth. Coyotes, wolves! Hello.
Kim Rodriguez: but people also report that they lose chunks of time.
Kim Rodriguez: you know. Some even go to say that
Kim Rodriguez: they're unseen for days.
Kim Rodriguez: Eventually they end up reaching their destination with no idea how they've gotten there.
Kim Rodriguez: and don't even realize that they were listed upon among the missing people.
Kim Rodriguez: So that you're asking yourself.
Kim Rodriguez: why are we mentioning this?
Kim Rodriguez: Well, stories of the highway
Kim Rodriguez: even pre-day the highway itself?
Kim Rodriguez: This includes rumors of horrific happenings going back to pioneer times.
Kim Rodriguez: Curious! Now you want to know more.
Kim Rodriguez: Let us know, and maybe we'll go into depth on a later episode about the infamous highway. 6, 6.
Skeptic Psychic: Now you would think that the State that's constantly remembering bias religion. That settled it, that the stories around the Great Lake Salt Lake
Skeptic Psychic: would be somehow not supernaturally spooky.
Skeptic Psychic: but yet
Skeptic Psychic: they are
Skeptic Psychic: 2 distinct stories come to mind. Firstly, Antelope Island, which sits within the lake itself.
Skeptic Psychic: The Island.
Skeptic Psychic: Now, though a State park was originally settled by Rancher Fielding, Gar. With structure still standing, dating, dating, dating back to 1848.
Skeptic Psychic: The building that still stands are said to be fairly creepy, but the woods between the ranch and the shoreline can actually hold a paranormal in thrall.
Skeptic Psychic: Stories are often rumored of the ranch, and who like to hunt children or hurt children.
Skeptic Psychic: though they certainly have yet to be verified.
Skeptic Psychic: Other investigations believe that the haunting in the woods is more modern in occurrences, and not all related to the rancher or his family's.
Skeptic Psychic: Within these trees, however.
Skeptic Psychic: dark shapes have been seen moving.
Skeptic Psychic: and within you will stumble across a depression in the ground with a great rock in the middle. Almost if, and the stone has been forcibly pulled into the earth
Skeptic Psychic: at some point someone built a bench by the depression, and if you say they're too long, mysterious scratches will appear on you
Skeptic Psychic: the moment they do. It is said that negative energies attach and start making you feel sick.
Skeptic Psychic: But shapes in the trees are not uncommon out in Antelope Island.
Skeptic Psychic: which shows and holds a lot of diverse wildlife, including the largest forms of bison and antelope.
Skeptic Psychic: Small noises and moving branches without wind, are often said to be simply be porcupines or hunting owls.
Skeptic Psychic: However.
Skeptic Psychic: this alone isn't what makes. And Telope Island that spooky.
Kim Rodriguez: Now, in 1862, a drifter wandered into town.
Kim Rodriguez: and he found work as a grave digger
Kim Rodriguez: turns out that Jean Baptiste was robbing the bodies of those he was supposed to be looking over.
Kim Rodriguez: and he would bury their clothes in jury.
Kim Rodriguez: I'm sorry he was supposed to be burying their clothes and jury.
Kim Rodriguez: but he was taking it for himself.
Kim Rodriguez: It took years before he was finally discovered.
Kim Rodriguez: and upon his arrest the authority, the authorities found his home filled with caskets that were broken into.
Kim Rodriguez: and they he used them as kindling.
Kim Rodriguez: Hundreds of children's clothes and shoes were stacked in piles, though baptized. A hat.
Kim Rodriguez: you know.
Kim Rodriguez: was.
Kim Rodriguez: I'm sorry. Baptiste and his simpleton common-law wife.
Kim Rodriguez: had no kids of their own.
Kim Rodriguez: Sorry. Lost my track there.
Kim Rodriguez: Yeah. There was also hero suits found, and jewelry
Kim Rodriguez: anything that he dug up made its way into its filthy hubble
Kim Rodriguez: of a home.
Kim Rodriguez: The bodies simply tumbled naked into the cold black earth.
Kim Rodriguez: Now as punishment. The police
Kim Rodriguez: branded the words, I robbed the graves on the Baptist forehead.
Kim Rodriguez: and both of his ears were severed before he was banished from society and hauled out to animal violence
Kim Rodriguez: again.
Kim Rodriguez: Cruel and unusual punishment. People.
Kim Rodriguez: Jeez.
Kim Rodriguez: anyway. So they left him alive. They branded him, took his ears, and
Kim Rodriguez: throw them on the island.
Kim Rodriguez: and
Kim Rodriguez: the severity of these injuries.
Kim Rodriguez: Where do you to?
Kim Rodriguez: The sheriff was so mad because he just married his daughter.
Kim Rodriguez: and this caused a revulsion in him at what Baptist had done.
Kim Rodriguez: So that's the reason that
Kim Rodriguez: you know the sheriff did such cruel, unusual punishment on him, because, you know, it could have been very
Kim Rodriguez: it. It was very
Kim Rodriguez: inevitable.
Kim Rodriguez: That artist, yes, had done this to his own, to the sheriff's daughter screen.
Kim Rodriguez: So
Kim Rodriguez: you know
Kim Rodriguez: that, plus the anger that the families
Kim Rodriguez: had
Kim Rodriguez: had gotten due to finding out that Baptist did this to their family members in the past.
Kim Rodriguez: You know that that's why they why, they claimed that they did such a horrific thing to baptize.
Skeptic Psychic: Just leaving it. A little bit of darkness in there.
Skeptic Psychic: little sounds of silence.
Kim Rodriguez: Yes.
Skeptic Psychic: So why did they banish him to envelope Antlope Island?
Skeptic Psychic: One story says that he was left with 2 brothers on the Antelope Island.
Skeptic Psychic: who were to row him to a nearby Fremont Island.
Skeptic Psychic: The 2 brothers had some cattle out there in Fremont, and were familiar with the rocky approach.
Skeptic Psychic: Another version is, authorities left him on Antelope Island, but the drop that year
Skeptic Psychic: lowered the level of the lake enough for Baptist to wade back to Maitland.
Kim Rodriguez: You know, it really isn't that surprising thinking of the late late dropping of that far.
Kim Rodriguez: The high at the highest level. So lake is only about 14 to 33 feet.
Kim Rodriguez: So with such shallow waters, the lake levels can quickly change temperature
Kim Rodriguez: as it fluctuates
Kim Rodriguez: dumb.
Kim Rodriguez: You know there's not much water left exposed to the airport evaporating.
Kim Rodriguez: So
Kim Rodriguez: you know, version, one does claim that Baptiste was quickly spotted
Kim Rodriguez: upon reaching the mainland, and then hauled out even further into the lake to Fremont Island, which is a far more remote, and
Kim Rodriguez: you know not as nearby with resources that they may have available before.
Skeptic Psychic: Now, basically, whichever you hear baptize was eventually left of a Fremont, which is a desolate rock, with nowhere to hide on its exposy rocky serve except for a small shack that was falling apart.
Kim Rodriguez: Few weeks later the authorities did go out to check on Boute's.
Kim Rodriguez: and they found his rough shelter dismantled with a slaughtered cow nearby.
Kim Rodriguez: But there was no signs of the man himself.
Kim Rodriguez: It seemed that maybe Baptiste had tried to leave.
Kim Rodriguez: you know, as part of the shaft could be used to build a raft.
Kim Rodriguez: However, that didn't make sense, because somehow baptize had found and killed account
Kim Rodriguez: before he skilled and delayed it.
Kim Rodriguez: He would have had food to get by with.
Kim Rodriguez: but none of it had been neat.
Kim Rodriguez: Did he, perhaps did he perhaps realize that he had no way out
Kim Rodriguez: and no way to cook the owning before it raw. I'm sorry.
Kim Rodriguez: and he just didn't want to eat it raw.
Kim Rodriguez: He could have tried to preserve it, you know, using the salty lake to Brian and cure it.
Kim Rodriguez: but
Kim Rodriguez: you know his limited
Kim Rodriguez: resources of fresh water would have made it difficult to choke the meal down. To begin with.
Skeptic Psychic: Woo! Woo!
Skeptic Psychic: Now unable to swim, and the waters around Fremont, too, d for him to cross from
Skeptic Psychic: something either took Baptist or he risked his life, tried to escape
Skeptic Psychic: must have been sudden, or surely he would have taken some strong, some sort of meat with him.
Skeptic Psychic: Strangely enough, although the authorities had searched the island thoroughly. It wasn't until years later that a skeleton wearing a ball in chang irons
Skeptic Psychic: were found on the island.
Skeptic Psychic: By this time no one remembered if Baptiste
Skeptic Psychic: had been left wearing leg irons, or were they abandoned him out there? But what had body was found when authorities landed.
Kim Rodriguez: You know. Perhaps he had somehow found a place to hide.
Kim Rodriguez: and then eventually died.
Kim Rodriguez: No one really knows, for sure as the body itself.
Kim Rodriguez: Well, there were no carnivores on the island.
Kim Rodriguez: so how is it that the body in the leg irons
Kim Rodriguez: at was that one into the islands
Kim Rodriguez: while his skull was 6 miles away, on the far side of the island.
Kim Rodriguez: Did the shepherd's brother take revenge on Baptiste
Kim Rodriguez: for the death of their cow?
Kim Rodriguez: If that was the case, you would think they would have collected the meat.
Kim Rodriguez: though the cows hide was never found.
Kim Rodriguez: Skin Walker.
Skeptic Psychic: Do.
Kim Rodriguez: How Baptist somehow managed skin and filet the carcass
Kim Rodriguez: is anyone's guess.
Kim Rodriguez: Given the lack of records from time from the time
Kim Rodriguez: there was no one who can even say what happened to the remains that were found.
Kim Rodriguez: Were they buried
Kim Rodriguez: with or without his head?
Kim Rodriguez: Stories all insist that Baptiste was alive and sporting his head when he left.
Kim Rodriguez: I'm sorry when he was left on Fremont.
Kim Rodriguez: so what then?
Kim Rodriguez: Removed it? And why
Kim Rodriguez: was it the skin locker?
Kim Rodriguez: Was it an alien.
Skeptic Psychic: Oh, with the freshly with a freshly slaughtered cow nearby.
Skeptic Psychic: What predator would even want to remove the head, let alone go, try to cough with it
Skeptic Psychic: again. There are no predators on the island except for wild birds, and a bird would have gone first for the eyes and then through the sockets into the brain.
Skeptic Psychic: There was no need for someone to remove and then carry the head off elsewhere.
Skeptic Psychic: By the time the body broke down enough for the head to have been attached, all soft tissue
Skeptic Psychic: would have left been long gone, and therefore no interest to birds, or even the Ca corn of ours.
Kim Rodriguez: Could it be possible that there were high winds that maybe blew through and broke the head off this the skeleton, and carried it through the brush.
Skeptic Psychic: Maybe.
Kim Rodriguez: Let's see if the body itself wasn't scattered about, but it looks as if it had just laid down and expired.
Kim Rodriguez: Hungry birds pulling fresh flesh from the bone would have spread the remains around a bit.
Kim Rodriguez: Stories insist that the body and skull didn't even seem to belong to one another.
Kim Rodriguez: Given, there was difference in sizing.
Kim Rodriguez: and which really messes the story up.
Kim Rodriguez: however, regardless of where you hear it
Kim Rodriguez: all, insist that Baptiste did indeed exist.
Kim Rodriguez: and was sentenced to die of exposure on the barren hook of rock.
Kim Rodriguez: Okay, so that's really interesting that
Kim Rodriguez: if you look at the head and the body, it's possible that they couldn't be of separate people.
Kim Rodriguez: So where's Baptiste's head?
Kim Rodriguez: And where's the body to the fed? They found?
Kim Rodriguez: Yeah, that makes it even more interesting.
Skeptic Psychic: Yes, but maybe you could roll out and ask ask him yourself as the ghost, it seems, still be wondering. The shores of the island thankfully, still wearing his head.
Kim Rodriguez: Wondering about that.
Kim Rodriguez: Maybe he assumed to weigh out Judgment Day to find out where his black and soul
Kim Rodriguez: state lies.
Skeptic Psychic: Alright. Well, maybe
Skeptic Psychic: now, while partners, the fire has died down and the coals of marshmallows and cocoa have long disappeared, decided to come to wide thanks down for the evening.
Skeptic Psychic: Catch up with us. Next time we'll discuss all the fun Ins, and out of the flat Earth conspiracy.
Kim Rodriguez: Maybe you'll drift off sleep to sleep safe tonight.
Kim Rodriguez: sleeping calm and suddenly.
Kim Rodriguez: But we'd rather think not.
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Skeptic Psychic: Dude do I cat sink.
Kim Rodriguez: Yes, we do like 5 stars, but you'll take what we give us if you're able to also leave us as review as we do re reviews on air.
Kim Rodriguez: And
Kim Rodriguez: yeah, what are your thoughts of the stories, Rick, which is your favorite ones?
Skeptic Psychic: My favorite story.
Skeptic Psychic: Black Jack.
Kim Rodriguez: Or Black Jack.
Skeptic Psychic: Yes.
Kim Rodriguez: He just went through the ringer.
Skeptic Psychic: Yep.
Kim Rodriguez: Yes.
Kim Rodriguez: these were definitely a little darker than the stories we read last episode. Again. We will link that
Kim Rodriguez: I would have to say, I do like the story of the little dwarf sitting there watching the Kid clean. The floor
Kim Rodriguez: would have been even more interesting if the door was like you missed a spot.
Kim Rodriguez: But anyway, I hope you all have a wonderful night. We look forward to you joining us again for the flat Earth conspiracies.
Skeptic Psychic: Yes.
Kim Rodriguez: And sweet dreams. Everybody.
Skeptic Psychic: And unpleasant nightmares.
Kim Rodriguez: And that everybody.
Skeptic Psychic: Good night.