Skeptic Psychic: Hello, and welcome us once again to the skeptic psychic. How are you guys doing to night? I'm doing pretty fine. I'm probably talking to you in the past.
Skeptic Psychic: and with me, as always. my wonderful, intelligent, brave, clean, perfect sister of mine, my favorite sibling Kimber Rodriguez. Hey! How's it going this week. All right.
Skeptic Psychic: that's good. Anything new or exciting on your end. Let's see.
Skeptic Psychic: Nope can't think of anything.
Kim Rodriguez: Same here
Kim Rodriguez: my computer crashed on Monday. So I've been working either from a little laptop or coming into my
Kim Rodriguez: office space
Kim Rodriguez: to use the computer I have at the office, which is a try drive downtown or
Kim Rodriguez: not really have a fun drive downtown?
Kim Rodriguez: Not really downtown. It's close to downtown.
Skeptic Psychic: Yes.
Kim Rodriguez: see
Skeptic Psychic: no
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Kim Rodriguez: So
Kim Rodriguez: anything. What do we?
Skeptic Psychic: What's the topic of today? Oh, wise and a wonderful sister of mine.
Kim Rodriguez: Tonight we are talking about one of my favorite hauntings.
Kim Rodriguez: we are talking about Annabelle, the doll
Skeptic Psychic: Annabelle. Is she kind of like the the Florida Keys doll? You know the one that is in the Museum. And you have to ask permission to take his picture.
Kim Rodriguez: Well, that's Robert.
Skeptic Psychic: he's an interesting start we'll be talking about in a few weeks. But Anabel
Kim Rodriguez: Annabelle is a little more
Kim Rodriguez: docile. Then, Robert, I guess you could say, because really, since the incident there hasn't been any other activities that have happened, and we'll actually talk a little bit more about that, how it may not have actually been the doll, but something in the area that was controlling the doll.
Kim Rodriguez: So there was something strange in the neighborhood.
Skeptic Psychic: Well, at least in the home.
Kim Rodriguez: But yeah, I've always been interested in the story of Annabelle, and as well as the
Kim Rodriguez: the Warrens themselves. Who were the ones who
Skeptic Psychic: went to investigate the Annabelle case? I don't know if you bring it up tonight. But wasn't the
Skeptic Psychic: R. The original Annabelle and Raggedy Andol.
Kim Rodriguez: Yes, it was the original Rec. Doll is Raggedy and Doll. The movie portrayed it as being something more ugly and sinister, and I heard a little quick tip that I didn't get into, and
Kim Rodriguez: in this is that the reason it was not a Raggedy, and all in the movie is because
Kim Rodriguez: the
Kim Rodriguez: the creators, or the copyright of the Raggedy and Doll did not want their name or image associated with such with such a dark and sinister thing.
Kim Rodriguez: So they had to change the doll for the movie cause. I couldn't get rights to the doll. Very interesting tidbit.
Skeptic Psychic: All right, so shall we begin.
Kim Rodriguez: Let's go ahead and begin
Skeptic Psychic: alright. The story of the original Annabelle Doll, as told by the Warrens, is both intriguing and chilling.
Skeptic Psychic: It is the early 19 seventies Disco's going on.
Skeptic Psychic: We've just got maybe we've had the set the Bicentennial Saturday night live. This is the wonderful seventies, when a nursing student named Donna received a Raggedy Ann doll as a gift from her mother
Skeptic Psychic: Donna living in apartment with her roommate, Auntie.
Skeptic Psychic: and they kept the doll on Donna's bed. As a decorations. However, strange things began to happen around the doll.
Skeptic Psychic: At first the occurrences were a minor and easily dismissed. The doll seemed to change positions on his own, moving from one room to the other without anyone touching it.
Skeptic Psychic: But as time went on the activity became more intense and sinister.
Skeptic Psychic: Donna and Angie would find handwritten notes scattered around the apartment.
Skeptic Psychic: even though neither of them had written them. The notes often contain messages like
Skeptic Psychic: or blue, seemed pleadingly for the assistance.
Kim Rodriguez: Yes, Lou is a friend of theirs that frequently visited them at the apartment.
Kim Rodriguez: and he also explained unsettling experiences he had with the doll.
He claimed that he was attacked by the doll
Kim Rodriguez: with scratch marks appearing on his body after he mocked its presence.
Kim Rodriguez: Now
Kim Rodriguez: concerned about the escalating paranormal activity. Donna and Angie did so. The first seek the help of a media.
Kim Rodriguez: the medium conveyed that the spirit inhabited the doll named Annabelle.
Kim Rodriguez: and
Kim Rodriguez: this
Skeptic Psychic: the full name was Annabelle Higgins.
Kim Rodriguez: According to the medium, she was a benevolent spirit that was seeking companionship and care.
Kim Rodriguez: Not a lot is known, but it is likely suggested that the spirit of Annabelle just wanted to be loved and treated kindly.
Kim Rodriguez: And it was portrayed as a friendly and innocent presence contrasted with the malevolent entity, malevolent entity that was believed to be attached to the doll. Interesting enough, I mean, they talk about how Lou was scratched from mocking the doll, but to me that seems kind of like a
I don't know
Kim Rodriguez: kind of like when a kid is being bullied, and they last shall it? To me it seems like something that could have been happening at that point. It's like, Oh, yeah, the stupid dahl blah blah blah. Then, you know, it's like.
Kim Rodriguez: Hey, how do you say I'm stupid? Scratch?
Skeptic Psychic: Yeah. Now, it's important to note that this information provided by the medium
Skeptic Psychic: is basically accounts of the even
Skeptic Psychic: of the advance and the accuracy and authenticity of these details can my vary the involvement of the medium in the paranormal cases often subject to skepticism and debate.
Skeptic Psychic: as their abilities. To commute with spirits or interpret supernatural phenomena.
Kim Rodriguez: are not scientifically proven.
Skeptic Psychic: Alrighty.
Skeptic Psychic: Ultimately the medium's depiction of Isabel, as a friendly spirit in needing of love and care.
Skeptic Psychic: adds a
Skeptic Psychic: intriguing layer to this story.
Skeptic Psychic: especially considering the darker turn of events that followed, and conclusive, drawn by paranormal investigators. Regarding the doll's alleged malevolent influences.
Skeptic Psychic: However.
Skeptic Psychic: the situation did take a darker turn when the activity became increasingly aggressive.
Skeptic Psychic: Donna and Angie began to fear for their lives as a doll seemed to be targeting them with malicious intent.
Skeptic Psychic: It was at this point they contacted
Skeptic Psychic: the famous Ed and the rain Warren, who were written out paranormal investigators for the help.
Kim Rodriguez: Yes, we did discuss Edin Lorraine and a past episode which I'll link below. If you're watching on Youtube, you can go back and check out that video.
Kim Rodriguez: But I just want to give a quick. you know. Recap of the the warrants real quick.
Kim Rodriguez: Ed Warren and Lorraine Warren, who Ed lived from 1926 to 2,006,
Kim Rodriguez: Lorraine from 1927 to 2,019. So she definitely outlived, and for quite a while they were married, and they were a couple that were based in Connecticut of the United States.
Kim Rodriguez: Ed had a background in World War 2 as a navy veteran.
Kim Rodriguez: and he later became a self taught demonologist, which is interesting cause I always thought he was deemed by the church.
Kim Rodriguez: but I think that was later when they he kind of deemed him the church did kind of recognize it, you know. Okay, II did remember hearing something about that. The church did recognize him.
Kim Rodriguez: for his his work with demonology.
Kim Rodriguez: and Lorraine was a clairvoyant and a medium she was actually tested and found to be the real thing, which is very interesting.
Kim Rodriguez: Now they did investigate thousands of cases over their career, and these range from haunted houses to possessions they were particularly known for their high involvement in case high profile cases, such as Ammoniville
Kim Rodriguez: and the Edinfield poltergeist. as well as the hunting in Connecticut, which is another one that
Kim Rodriguez: is a big movie or no. I'm sorry hunting in Connecticut, was their nephew, John Zafis, but they were in the other one.
Kim Rodriguez: Oh, I can't remember what it is. I have it here.
Kim Rodriguez: But it was a movie that that the Annabelle movie was part of. So they'll see that later.
Kim Rodriguez: But they did investigate. I'm sorry
Kim Rodriguez: they established the New England Society of Psychic Research.
Kim Rodriguez: or Ns.
Kim Rodriguez: NESP. R.
Skeptic Psychic: They also have
Kim Rodriguez: nesper, yeah. They also have an occult museum, or they used to have in Monroe, Connecticut.
Kim Rodriguez: It did house various alleged haunted cursed. I'm saying, haunted or cursed artifacts that collected
Kim Rodriguez: during their investigations, and this did include the famous Annabelle doll.
Skeptic Psychic: yeah, is interesting yeah. I mean.
Skeptic Psychic: and also with this wife Lorraine authorized several books, documenting their investigations into the paranormal, including the demonologist.
Skeptic Psychic: The extraordinary career of Ed Lorraine
Skeptic Psychic: Warren. They also appeared in documentaries, television shows, and interviews, discussing their experiments, experiences, and their insights into the supernatural.
Skeptic Psychic: while Edin Lorraine had so many.
Skeptic Psychic: wow!
Skeptic Psychic: And Lorraine had many supporters. They also faced skepticism and criticism from skeptics, scientists, and other paranormal investigators. Critics often question the validity of their claims and of their methods used in their investigations, highlighting the lack of scientific evidence to support their findings
Skeptic Psychic: through their work. and Lorraine left a lasting legacy and impression into the field of paranormal.
Skeptic Psychic: and their work continues to be captivated and intriguing audiences from around the world.
Kim Rodriguez: Going back to the case of Annabelle. There's not a lot of
Kim Rodriguez: evident. I'm sorry there is some alive. Yes.
Kim Rodriguez: going back to the case of Annabelle. There's not a lot of detail
Kim Rodriguez: of the investigation itself. However, Ed, in the rain likely conducted extensive interviews with Donna and Angie, and even Lou. These were the ones who were directly affected by the doll.
Kim Rodriguez: so they were the ones that they would be gathering the details of for this paranormal occurrence.
Kim Rodriguez: this would include, you know, talking to the witnesses about the movements of the doll. The appearances of these notes, and any attacks or manifest manifestations that they had gone through.
Kim Rodriguez: they would have also, and visited Donna and Angie's apartment to to go through an on-site investigation.
Kim Rodriguez: This would be gathering evidence firsthand.
Kim Rodriguez: They also could have observed the behavior of the doll Annabelle itself. and by this documenting any paranormal activity that occurred in the vicinity.
Kim Rodriguez: With all of this it would have assessed the overall environment for signs of supernatural influence.
Kim Rodriguez: being a clear, avoyant, and a medium. Lorraine would have utilized her psychic abilities
Kim Rodriguez: to tune in to the spiritual energies that were present in the apartment and around. Specifically, Annabelle, the doll
Kim Rodriguez: she may have been able to pick up on psychic impressions or intuitive thoughts that provided further information about the nature of the alleged haunting.
Kim Rodriguez: With these and entities involved.
Skeptic Psychic: Now the warrants would closely examine the Annabelle Doll excel, looking for any signs of tampering manipulations of the personal influences they may have also conducted tests or experiments to assess the dolls properties and determine if they're exhibiting any type of add numerous behavior. I didn't even know that was a word and no and no, no anomalous
Skeptic Psychic: yes, like, if it's an an anomaly
Kim Rodriguez: in addition to their own expertise, the warns would have consulted with other expert and revellet
Skeptic Psychic: revelt fields.
Skeptic Psychic: such as terminology, theology, parasycology, and other types of ecology's.
Skeptic Psychic: To gain additional insight into this case.
Skeptic Psychic: Those consultations may have involved discussions about the nature of the entity, allegedly inheriting the doll, and partially
Skeptic Psychic: potentially methods for addressing this paranormal activity.
Skeptic Psychic: After investigating the case, the warmth came into the conclusion that the dog was not possessed by the spirit of young girl. as previously, believed, but rather a malevolent entity pretending to be
Skeptic Psychic: notice I'm blinking my eyes. There.
Skeptic Psychic: they determined that the dog was a conduit for demonic forces. Seeking to possess and harm all the applicants of the room and the apartment too.
Kim Rodriguez: Yes.
Kim Rodriguez: Now to protect Donna Angie and Lou from further harm from this possessed doll. The warrants did take it to it. They did take it with them, and placed it in this.
Kim Rodriguez: a cult museum that they had. It was placed in a specific sl.
Skeptic Psychic: It was yes, it was
Kim Rodriguez: placed in a specially blessed glass case.
Kim Rodriguez: and it.
Kim Rodriguez: you know, had different
Kim Rodriguez: religious symbols placed around it, to, you know. Keep whatever was in it at bay.
Kim Rodriguez: And it was, you know. added along these other haunted objects and cursed objects in the species.
Kim Rodriguez: Now. But Annabelle does remain one of its most famous exhibits, or should I say, infamous exhibits.
Kim Rodriguez: There are, however, differing accounts to whether paranormal activity ceased. and Donna and Angie's apartment, after the doll was removed. As I mentioned to this before. some sources do suggest that the activity subsided or ceased altogether.
Kim Rodriguez: However, others have claimed that the disturbances continued despite the doll's removal.
Kim Rodriguez: So that goes back to what I was saying earlier about how it is possible that it was not the doll itself that was possessed. But there was something else in the home that was using it as they can do it
Kim Rodriguez: to in order to make itself known, or its presence known in the home.
Skeptic Psychic: Now I did hear one story about the Annabelle doll after Ed Lorraine took possession of it. What a reporter had come in to interview! And Lorraine Warren!
Skeptic Psychic: And as there what as the they used to keep Anabel in the study
before they they built the museum.
Skeptic Psychic: and this reporter sit there waiting for Ed Lorraine to come in when she hears this little voice saying. healthy. and she's like wondering what what's going on.
Skeptic Psychic: and she looks over at the Annabelle doll, and the head, turns its head and says.
Kim Rodriguez: Interesting! So as as he comes up to the to the door. Seem to be a little
Skeptic Psychic: little door that you know into the case about ready to open it up when Admin Lorraine come in come in, and
Skeptic Psychic: you know, stopper
Kim Rodriguez: interesting.
Kim Rodriguez: Now, according to Evan Lorraine and their version of the events, the activity in the apartment did persist after they took the doll away.
Kim Rodriguez: Now why they didn't bless the home is beyond me. But they believed that the doll itself was not the source of the activity.
Kim Rodriguez: but rather a conduit, as I mentioned before.
Kim Rodriguez: so removing the doll from the home, did not necessarily resolve the underlying issue or stop the disturbances, so goes back to my question. If it was not the doll. It was the home.
Kim Rodriguez: Why did they not perform a blessing on the home? Why did they say, Okay, we're gonna take this doll away. Everything's gonna be fine. And then everything stopped fine, and then they're gone.
Skeptic Psychic: No, however. there are
Skeptic Psychic: alternate accounts that suggest that the activity ceased
Skeptic Psychic: at cease. Stop once the Annabelle doll was removed from the home.
Skeptic Psychic: These accounts often present a more dramatic or sensationalizing versions of events with removal of the doll symbolizing the defeat of the malevolent entity and the end of the haunting.
Skeptic Psychic: Ultimately
Skeptic Psychic: the true outcome of Annabelle's case would be subjected to interpretation and debates with various sources, presenting and contending conflicting narratives.
Skeptic Psychic: It's important to approach these accounts with critic style and consider the perspectives and biases of those involved of telling the story.
Skeptic Psychic: Once Annabelle was placed in the Warrens Occult Museum. There are no widely reported instance of paranormal activity directly involving the doll.
Skeptic Psychic: however. ever ever ever.
Skeptic Psychic: There are numerous claims and antidotes about strange occurrences and unsettling experiences within the Museum itself.
Skeptic Psychic: which houses a variety of alleged
Skeptic Psychic: haunted or cursed artifacts collected by
Skeptic Psychic: ed and Lorraine throughout their career.
Kim Rodriguez: You know, to me I think that could be due to
Kim Rodriguez: kind of like when somebody tells you a scary story, or you see a scary movie, and you get that creeped out feeling, even though nothing's really there.
Kim Rodriguez: But it's just that thought has been planted in your mind.
Kim Rodriguez: and the mind is a powerful, powerful conduit itself.
Kim Rodriguez: Visitors to the Museum have reported feeling uneasy, or experiencing unusual sensations in the presence of certain objects.
Kim Rodriguez: and this does include Anabol, the doll.
Kim Rodriguez: Some claim to have witnessed the doll moving on its own, or have felt a malevolent presence emanating from it again, power of the mind.
Kim Rodriguez: While these accounts are only anecdotal
Kim Rodriguez: and not specifically verified.
Kim Rodriguez: they have contributed to the reputation of the occult Museum as a place of paranormal intrigue and fascination.
Kim Rodriguez: The animal doll, in particular, has become a focal point of curiosity and speculation. This is, with its eerie appearance, appearance.
Kim Rodriguez: It's eerie appearance and purported connection.
Skeptic Psychic: A pyramid.
Kim Rodriguez: Yes, it's it's appearance.
Kim Rodriguez: and purported connection to demonic forces that capture the imagination of many.
Kim Rodriguez: It is important to note that the claims surrounding the Annabelle doll and the warrants. A coat museum are subject again to skepticism and scrutiny
Kim Rodriguez: skeptics. We always trying to ruin the fun.
Skeptic Psychic: Yeah.
Skeptic Psychic: we gotta try to ruin the pan.
Kim Rodriguez: No, they're like, oh, no, that can't be true. That's micro climate
Skeptic Psychic: alright. Anyway, they often attribute the reported paranormal phenomenon. 15,
Kim Rodriguez: 2 psychological factors suggest to suggestible perceptions or natural explanations rather than supernatural causes. So that goes back to like I was saying, the power of the mind. And you know you're hearing all these stories of these, these artifacts being possessed and all these things happening. And so you're already getting hyped up and your minds already starting to play that game, and that fear is already kicking in. But it's all psychological.
Kim Rodriguez: But you know, even though this museum does
Kim Rodriguez: remain controversial, it is still in in that.
Kim Rodriguez: It's an enigma.
Skeptic Psychic: And it's a confused with that that early Nineties Rock band that did a lot of Gregorian chance.
Kim Rodriguez: Oh, gosh! I didn't even think about them. Yeah, that was a song, though.
Kim Rodriguez: No, that was the name of the band. Welcome to Ign. Oh, yeah. The name of the song was sadness. Yeah. Okay, they had sad this, and sad this part, too. Anyway, off topic. Add rant skews us.
Kim Rodriguez: this is a
prize destination for those who are interested in paranormal.
Kim Rodriguez: And
Kim Rodriguez: unfortunately, though the museum is currently closed, hopefully, they'll be able to get it back opened up somehow. But at this time you're not able to go check it out.
Kim Rodriguez: Let's talk about the movie itself, and how different it is from the actual story. Tell us, oh, wise brother!
Skeptic Psychic: In 2,014, the Supernatural Horror Film. Annabelle was released. It was actually directed by John H. Lynette and written by Gary
Skeptic Psychic: Durbin Bond.
Skeptic Psychic: Okay, that was Gary. John R.
Kim Rodriguez: Dauberman.
Kim Rodriguez: like Cam
Skeptic Psychic: Pam Dauber. You know, the movie does serve as a prequel to the 2,013 film.
Skeptic Psychic: the conjuring. That's the one I was thinking of that they.
Skeptic Psychic: the Annivers, were involved with. Sorry I had mentioned that earlier, and I couldn't remember the name of the of the movie. That's it. Continue sorry, right? The conjuring. And it's part of the conjuring universe
Skeptic Psychic: which is a shared universe of a horror films based on the cases of real life. Paranoia investigators. our favorites. Ed and Lorraine Warren.
Skeptic Psychic: The film is set instead of the so Gook, the
Skeptic Psychic: the sexy seventies. We're going into the groovy sixties and follows a young married couple, John and me inform. who are expecting their first child.
Skeptic Psychic: John gives me a a vintage doll named Annabelle
Kim Rodriguez: to complete her collection.
Skeptic Psychic: Ever their happiness is shattered when their home is invaded by members of a Satanic cult
Skeptic Psychic: who attacked them. Oh, no, yeah. During the attack one of the cultists, Annabelle Higgins, dies in the nursery while holding the Annabelle doll. That's maybe why she was so ugly.
Kim Rodriguez: Possibly
Skeptic Psychic: following the attack, strange and terrifying occurrences began to plague the occupants.
Skeptic Psychic: Mia becomes increasingly convinced that her doll is possessed by a benevolent energy, and the couple seeks help from the priest, and a later from an a bookstore owner whose knowledge of the occult as supernatural activity escalates.
Skeptic Psychic: Now the couple realises that they are in a grave danger and must confront the evil force controlling the doll.
Kim Rodriguez: Now the movie Annabelle did receive mixed reviews from critics, critics.
Kim Rodriguez: but was a commercial success, and it grows over 257 million dollars worldwide. This was against a budget of 6.5 million.
Kim Rodriguez: while some praise of the film's atmosphere and scares.
Kim Rodriguez: others criticized its reliance on horror cliches, and predictable plot elements.
Kim Rodriguez: Despite mixed critical
Kim Rodriguez: receptions.
Kim Rodriguez: the Phillips box office success led to the development of the franchise centered around the character of Annabel. And this did include sequels and Spinoffs.
Kim Rodriguez: Annabelle is a chilling horror film that capitalizes on the creepy mythology surrounding the Haunted Doll.
Kim Rodriguez: This offers audiences plenty of scares and suspenseful moments. The movie Annabelle is a work of fiction
Kim Rodriguez: that was inspired by the real life accounts of the doll as reported through paranormal investigators Ed and Lorraine Warren.
Kim Rodriguez: While the film does draw upon the elements of the original story such as there was a haunted doll. Let's just say that's it. And the name Anabel Higgins. Okay, maybe those 2 things. But other than that.
Kim Rodriguez: there are several key differences between the movie and the real events
Kim Rodriguez: in the movie.
Kim Rodriguez: The Annabelle Doll is betrayed as an antique doll that was given as a gift to me of form by her husband. Again, however, as we mentioned earlier, the real doll was Raggedy Ann Doll, that was purchased from an antique store.
Kim Rodriguez: and this was given to a daughter from her mother in the seventies
Skeptic Psychic: also.
Skeptic Psychic: and, moving, introduces a subpot, invading and evolving and invading Satanic cult responsibilities for the attack on the Form family and the possession of the Annabelle Doll.
Skeptic Psychic: The element is not present in the real story of Annabel. and recounted by the Warrens is probably added to degenerate more of a hoary element to the story
Skeptic Psychic: we call bad horror films. Yes. Also, the time period differs from reality and the movie. The movie set in the late sixties, while they re-re live events surrounded Annabelle took place in the seventies.
Skeptic Psychic: A whole decade difference? Yes, the late sixties was a tumblrist time, an American history marked by social and cultural upheaval which provided is rich backdrop for the horror story.
Skeptic Psychic: This period is a distinctive fashion, music and design elements that can also enhance the visuals.
Skeptic Psychic: The film's visual and atmospheric uphill.
Skeptic Psychic: By setting the film in the sixties, the filmmakers can tap into the historical context of the era.
Skeptic Psychic: including references to events such as the Vietnam war and the counter culture revolution movement.
Skeptic Psychic: the ads depths
Skeptic Psychic: and complexity to this story acres in it an expedite time and space
Skeptic Psychic: which were specific
Kim Rodriguez: quickly and specifically.
Kim Rodriguez: also, the late sixties and the early seventies were a golden hate. Golden Age for Hor Cinema.
Kim Rodriguez: Such classics as Rosemary's Baby, which came out in 1968,
Kim Rodriguez: and the original exorcist in the 1973.
Kim Rodriguez: These set new standards for the genre genre
Kim Rodriguez: zendra genre. However, you want to say it. So by setting Anabel into the late sixties.
Kim Rodriguez: the filmmakers may be paying homage to the influential films
Kim Rodriguez: and drawing inspiration from their Silas and fanatic elements. I can see that
Kim Rodriguez: also setting the film in the 60 s. May also appeal to a certain demographic within the film's target audience.
Kim Rodriguez: This includes fans of retro and vintage and aesthetics.
Kim Rodriguez: This can help attract viewers who are nostalgic for a period.
Kim Rodriguez: or appreciate the visual and cultural references associated with it.
Kim Rodriguez: Well, the choice of the time period. If Annabelle's diverges from the original, I'm sorry from the real life events surrounding Annabelle. It does serve various narrative and stylistic
Kim Rodriguez: purposes
Kim Rodriguez: enriching the film's atmosphere. Historical context and cinematic influences.
Skeptic Psychic: Now
Skeptic Psychic: there were also very fictional characters added to this story, including the form, family, and supportive characters, such as the Bookstore Order, Evelyn.
Skeptic Psychic: These characters were created for the film, and do not correspond to real individuals involved in the edible case. It is possible these characters were created to add debt to the story.
Skeptic Psychic: Also the movie ends with a greater climax than the true story.
Skeptic Psychic: The movie concludes with the defeat of the Melvin entity controlling the Annabelle Doll, whereas the real life Annabelle Doll remains safety contained in the Warren's occult music to this day.
Skeptic Psychic: guessing that the truth ending would, too, be boring, and so they had to spice stuff to keep viewers entertained and intertwined
Skeptic Psychic: because they're supposedly working on Annabelle, too.
Kim Rodriguez: Yeah, I think it's hard to came out
Skeptic Psychic: like many stories, Annabelle takes creative liberties with the Sal with a sour source material to enhance the
Skeptic Psychic: scare and auspicious suspense.
Skeptic Psychic: The movie exaggerates certain aspects of the story and introduces a fictional elements to and for the dramatic effect.
Kim Rodriguez: Yes, while the movie Annabelle says that it's inspired by the real life accounts of the doll that were reported by the warrants.
Kim Rodriguez: it does take huge, significant liberties with the source material to create a fictionalized or narrative, making the event much grander than it truly was.
Kim Rodriguez: As a role. As a result. As shown.
Kim Rodriguez: there are many differences between what really happened and what Hollywood betrayed.
Kim Rodriguez: Again, once in real life.
Kim Rodriguez: the warrants did conclude their investigation and determine that the animal doll was a conduit for these forces. They took possession of the doll and placed it in the Museum
Kim Rodriguez: in Monroe, Connecticut.
Kim Rodriguez: This did serve, you know. as its final resting place for the doll. Again it was placed in a specially constructed glass
Kim Rodriguez: case, with multiple layers of protection protection to prevent it from causing harm or escaping again. This includes
Kim Rodriguez: religious symbols.
Kim Rodriguez: And a blessing to further contain the dolls influence.
Skeptic Psychic: Yeah, the warrant's account of Annabelle DOE, along with other cases, they investigated garn widespread interest and fascination.
Skeptic Psychic: The doll became an iconic figure in popular culture, inspiring numerous books, other films and documentaries exploring the purposeful Fontaine.
Skeptic Psychic: and the performant hunting too.
Skeptic Psychic: despite being securely housed in the Warrens Occult Museum.
Skeptic Psychic: the Annabelle dog continues to attract attention and speculation from the paranormal enthusiast, sceptics and curiosity seekers. Again.
Skeptic Psychic: visitors to the Museum have reported experiencing unusual sensations of feeling, a sense of needs in the presence of the doll contributing to the endearing mystique.
Skeptic Psychic: whereas.
Skeptic Psychic: whether it's true or not. it has left a speculation.
Skeptic Psychic: The museum is now closed, as they are currently marred, and there is no way to visit and test the theory out for yourself.
Skeptic Psychic: The story of Annabel and the Warrens. Individuals involvement in this case should have left a lasting legacy in the field of paranormal research and popular culture.
Skeptic Psychic: The doll itself remains one of the most famous and notorious exhibits to ever be held in the Warren Occult Museum, serving as a reminder of the mysterious forces and explain phenomenon.
Kim Rodriguez: Did did it
Skeptic Psychic: phenomena?
Kim Rodriguez: Do you do
Skeptic Psychic: this continues to captivate and intrigue audiences from around the world.
Kim Rodriguez: Now, while the true aftermath of the Annabelle story may be subject to enter interpretation and speculation.
Kim Rodriguez: the doll's placement to the Warrens Account Museum, and it's ongoing impact of popular culture is undeniable.
Kim Rodriguez: So now we will ask our listeners and viewers. do you believe the Annabelle doll is possessed by a spirit of a lost child? Or was it something more sinister?
Kim Rodriguez: Or is it all just fake? Let us know in the comments below on Youtube. If you're listening to us and our if you're listening to this.
Skeptic Psychic: if you're listening to this, please join us at the end Facebook group, we'd like to call the skeptics psychic. Discuss the story further.
Skeptic Psychic: Yes, thank you. Couldn't get the words out.
Kim Rodriguez: Yes. So what do you think of the doll, Rick, I know this is story that's been around for quite a time.
Skeptic Psychic: I cut is like I said, that whole Raggedy. And thing, I do wish that the movie itself would have actually used a much cuter doll that would've been a little bit more sinister than the ugly one that
Skeptic Psychic: that they used well.
Skeptic Psychic: I mean they could have done a rag doll come on instead of the plastic ventriloquist. Steady looking thing.
Kim Rodriguez: I think the reason they went with the rent. The plastic venture with dummy is, people are a lot of times scared of those dolls to begin with, and they wanted to to look more sinister than being cute and fluffy?
Kim Rodriguez: But as as to the true story, do you believe that it was the doll that was haunted? Do you believe that it was the home that was haunted? Or do you think it was
Kim Rodriguez: just something that was made up for attention?
Skeptic Psychic: Hmm, II kinda think that you know.
Skeptic Psychic: It could have been again being the skeptic in this situation. cause I've never seen Anabel nor I've met her. I've seen her on TV.
Skeptic Psychic: They used to have show. I think it was either. That's incredible. Real people. They actually interviewed the wars, and they introduced
Skeptic Psychic: Annabelle.
Kim Rodriguez: I remember that that's the first time I heard the story. I was trying to remember how like the story came about in my memory.
Kim Rodriguez: and I think it was that show you were talking about where they interviewed the Warrens, and they talked about Anabel.
Skeptic Psychic: And I think they even interview.
Kim Rodriguez: No, I was just saying, yeah, they didn't interview the the people involved, but they did do like re enactments of it.
Kim Rodriguez: And you saw, like, re enactments of
Kim Rodriguez: being destroyed. And
Skeptic Psychic: right basically, they were anonymous that that wouldn't until years later that you found out you know what their names were.
Skeptic Psychic: but it could happen it. Couldn't, you know it couldn't happen that sort of thing.
Skeptic Psychic: But there's one thing for sure. If you girlfriend's got a a little doll on her bit. Don't make fun of it.
Kim Rodriguez: No, no, this is true. I would love to do an episode sometime of
Kim Rodriguez: things that
Kim Rodriguez: of dolls themselves.
Skeptic Psychic: We should do an episode about things you should say, boyfriend shouldn't say to their girlfriends.
Skeptic Psychic: Yeah, oh, not just other dolls. But you know, it's like, you know,
Skeptic Psychic: honey, we're heading out to Mcdonalds.
Skeptic Psychic: But seriously, I got a cousin who
Skeptic Psychic: Who takes every one of his dates to Mcdonald's.
Kim Rodriguez: Yes. Well, not everyone of his dates, but he did take a valentine state that there, and
Kim Rodriguez: let's just say that he can definitely afford a nicer Valentine's day than Mcdonald's lunch hour. We'll just leave it at that. We have to. The whole world doesn't need to know who he is, but he can afford it
Skeptic Psychic: now. There is something that did happen the this past couple of weeks something personal.
Skeptic Psychic: we lost not only
Skeptic Psychic: My second cousin.
we also lost a very dear and sweet uncle
Skeptic Psychic: that's been was battling a lot of health problems. So
Skeptic Psychic: hearts and prayers and thoughts and positive vibes sent.
Skeptic Psychic: you know, if you feel like it. But
Skeptic Psychic: just you know. that's exactly kind of how this these past couple weeks been going. So just wanted to put that out there, not mentioning any names. But
Kim Rodriguez: yes.
Kim Rodriguez: We did lose a couple of family members, and so it is kind of a sad time. I'm glad we can
Kim Rodriguez: still smile and find the joy in the good things despite the sadness.
Kim Rodriguez: but yeah, as I was saying, I would love to do an episode on dolls
Kim Rodriguez: because
Kim Rodriguez: there. I remember hearing a story one time about how
Kim Rodriguez: the dolls were originally created by the Egyptians.
Kim Rodriguez: and it was to house the souls of those who had passed that weren't able to travel on. And so it's a very squeaky and
Kim Rodriguez: interesting theory that you know I would love to dive deeper into in a future episode.
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Skeptic Psychic: We want 5 stars.
Kim Rodriguez: We do ask for 5, but we'll take whatever you give us. If you're able to leave a review, please do. We will read reviews on air. and with that we wish you a wonderful evening.
Skeptic Psychic: sweet James. Everybody.